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To: pcstel who wrote (97153)	4/9/2001 1:13:14 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

OTP: (I would appreciate a link to the GSTRF discussion you refered to, opinions on democracy are interesting) Just one opinion (somewhat based on really "smart guys"), no attempt of starting a debate. The president is just one part of a democracy in addition to the house and the senate. Indirect election of the president is a smart thing when one of the jobs is to offset, balance the other two, especially if that election process goes totally wrong for them. The real issue is that congress is elected through winner-takes-all districts, no proportionality, lousy representation, but offset by the fact that the districts are drawn, manipulated, gerrymandered to achieve that proportionality and some kind of (racial) representation. The price that was paid to end segregation and Jim Crow, together with an increased centralized system with more power locally, and guaranteed only two parties not to "break up the union". Anyone who comes up with an instant solution will surely be nailed on the cover of all future books of democracy and history. Ilmarinen. P.S. Rajala forgot that, for example, President Carter would and could not have supervised the elections, as the three basic demands for elections that it is possible to supervise does and did not exist. (that will be fixed, thanks to Florida) P.P.S. The level of democracy is often measured by the level of minority protection it can ensure and provide, the senate and the connection to the electoral system are some of the most important in USA. (besides gerrymandering minority districts) Btw, not one new nation has copied the US system, instead small nations go for full proportional representation, larger for a mix of winner-takes-all and proportionality. (US-Canada-UK-frm colonies are the last ones, UK,etc in the busy process of reforming, incrementally) Btw, all of this is (also) important for democracy within EU.