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To: The Philosopher who wrote (11004)	4/11/2001 6:18:44 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

The issues a group of women, men, people of a certain color race, religion, etc. are not only those of discrimination. There are many issues for all those groups that affect them particularly. You are defining it as only dealing with discrimination. I never mentioned that word.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (11004)	4/11/2001 6:21:07 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

and Michael Jackson jokes are plain silly. To me, that is. And since he has had many surgeries, but not a sex-change, I fail to see the point of your joke.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (11004)	4/11/2001 6:26:45 PM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

None of what you have cited are immutable characteristics which the individual cannot affect and on the basis of which it is illegal to discriminate. ... Being a member of AI isn't something you're born with, it's something you choose. I would agree, but... would you then support, for example, a company saying: "Sorry, we're not employing you because you're a Christian?" or "We're not offering you the job because you're a Republican."?? How about "We're not serving you, you have children." Or, as an extreme, "You can't vote here unless you're willing to pledge allegiance to our cause, in blood, and sign over your child into slavery." Not to mention things which may not be 'choices', as such, but aren't readily changed if at all: "We won't employ you because you're gay." "Sorry, we don't allow any members earning less than $250K/year." IMO discrimination should only ever be allowed when it's over something - optional - not a 'public' good or need - appropriate to the position, or opportunity, or service being offered. OTOH I am a meritocrat... by choice... or is that by birth? <g>