To: Scumbria who wrote (137728 ) 4/12/2001 11:15:16 AM From: CYBERKEN Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667 Any reasonable liberal, looking back on the Clinton years, will quickly recognize that the liberal agenda's advancement was limited to the easiest goal of all: vetoing of tax cuts. The great socialist enterprises that characterize most liberal presidencies were given only lip service, and a few symbolic bucks. Perhaps that's due in part to the fact that American socialism (i.e., liberalism) has long since lost the argument and is dead, leaving Democrats to not much more than manufacturing fake votes to make elections close (ala 2000). But the point most liberals are barely starting to realize through the fog of their now-ended 8-year daydream, is that the Clinton administration was entirely about method rather than substance. The Big Lie was played like a symphony, defrauding the willing mainstream media and, as an after-effect, the weakest-minded of the voters. It leaves not a legacy of socialist entitlements so much as total confusion on the part of a large number of ill-informed "undecided" voters. The true liberal fear is that this "undecided" mass can be driven either way, and thus may wind up voting for conservatives as they did in the Reagan years. It's tough to put your hopes for your side on the continuing incompetence of a Trent Lott of a John McCain when the Bush team is showing a shrewdness and savvy not seen since the early '80's. The Nazis rose to power in the late '20's and early '30's by pretending to be socialists. Many believed that Gregor Stassar, the party's socialist spokesman, would quickly replace Hitler, who was considered too incompetent to govern. Instead, Stassar was killed in the first post-power purge, and Hitler went on to govern by propaganda fed to a captive media. The Clinton White House War Room manipulated the American media at least as effectively as the SS dictated to the captive German press. The Clintons' effective tactics of character assassination and never-challenged public lying would have made a real clinic for the Nazi's, While the acceptance of it by the American public should chill spines on both the left and the right...