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To: Bilow who wrote (1988)	4/13/2001 2:37:35 AM
From: ahhaha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24758

Well, the Maine is still at the bottom of the harbor, or was cut up for scrap, I think. Nope. Hauled out of Havana harbor and on March 16, 1912 was scuttled in deep water where it now lies. But how was the Maine used? As far as what we did to the Barbary pirates, we had an inconclusive serious of naval battles with various rulers, losing the frigate Philadelphia in the process, and we finally paid them tribute just like the European powers and ended the fiasco. Some knowledge of US history you have. But how did Jefferson use the incident and what did we finally do? Ah, here's a good reference, to the original treaty document, no less: What we did to the Barbary pirates was use a naval attack force to force them to agree to stop the raids and "tribute". This was during the War of 1812. What we were doing in 1804 was to protect American ocean going commerce when we sent the frigates there to clean out the pirates. The Philadelphia was lost more by bungling than by battle. The issue of the Maine was whether the US used the incident to justify destroying the remnants of the Spanish Empire especially in the Caribbean in order to acquire the pieces. Manifest Destiny. It's unclear who blew it up, but all evidence points to a mine perhaps floated out to the hull by Cubans or Spanish nationalists or maybe dropped by the Maine herself in order to fend off sneak attack. My point was that the US has a checkered history when it comes to military entanglement. Sometimes we make blunders and sink in deep and other times we neglect what needs attention, and still others where we manipulate opponents into all sorts of outcomes mostly bad (i.e. what we can do to ourselves when we get pissed off).