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To: ahhaha who wrote (13525)	4/13/2001 4:08:10 PM
From: Temple Williams	Respond to of 17977

Dear ahhaha (Your Most Worshipful One): I feel blessed that you have taken the time to scold me for my foolish behavior. Perhaps I may grasp a small portion of the Holy Grail Theory of Physics you seem to be offering to us lowly, frail humanoids. But I am not worthy of such munificent attention. Perhaps you would be so kind as to offer your extraordinary powers to the Nobel laureates who used a similar, magnificent theory to create that wonderful little corporation ... Longterm Capital ... in Greenwich, Connecticut. That is on the East Coast of the United States, Your Lordship Of The Universe. It will take a mere nanosecond for you to beam yourself down there. They need your help badly. I am not a worthy recipient of your most blessed offerings. Please help them. One of our minor deities here on Planet Earth, Alan Greenspan, may not have the money needed to bail them out next time. I remain so humble in your presence that I will not be able to respond to any further messages from you.

To: ahhaha who wrote (13525)	4/13/2001 4:47:10 PM
From: Agenda	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 17977

Hey Clowny Boy. I considered the possibility that you were posting under more than one alias but it wasn't worth my time to prove it. Well, lo and behold, look what you went and did "Darlene", and on your own thread! Quick "Sybil", conjure up "Grace Zacardi" for the defense. Message 15658189 Message 15658280

To: ahhaha who wrote (13525)	4/13/2001 5:10:41 PM
From: Jeff Jordan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17977

ahhaha, I see your still entertaining everyone here....I just want to give you something for your idle mind to reject since you appear bored. I have no opinion of the factual relevancy of this discussion. I do have my own simple understanding on how the game is played. here's the link first: tradingeducators.com OK, I trust my brain to recognize patterns....I'm sure it has something to do with basic survival instincts? What I do know is simply; the value of a stock is only what the greater number of buyers is willing to pay for it. As long as the number of buyers is greater than the number of sellers the price goes up. This is true for any commodity in any market. I believe this is a factual statement. Now, are we all gamblers and sharpshooters trying to beat the odds because we attempt to time entry/exit points in a given market? Who cares? I've heard we can't win because of our methods? And only those who invest over time win...I'm pretty sure that myth was debunked this past year. "Valuation" another myth....I believe my above opinion is more accurate than any economist estimates based on P/E multiples,capitalization, intrinsic value. EBAY analysts upgrade at 200 but downgrade @ 13. nonsense! Charting programs simply give us visual types a snapshot of sentiment. It's just so much easier to view price volume on a graph than a spreadsheet. As you know I'm big on patterns, charts, indicators...I don't need to know much more than that to play in this game...trusting what I see is something else....acting on that emotion is just faith....over time trust is built in the effectiveness of a system as the outcome is proved. here is a simple chart I trust. enthios.com Here's one I use everyday....I can just trade looking on the color bars to tell me what to do...no thinking required....yet they always seen to tell me when the price is moving up or down? Somehow, I manage to make a living? tenlights.com the above graphic presentation of data portrays only enough information for me to consistently make money. That's all I need to know as fact or faith in it's viability. which comes to our economy and the dollar and any other currency that we value. Does it really have value? No...only that we say it does and are willing to exchange goods for it. random processes mean nothing when emotions are at play...If I say 2+2=3 all I need is one other person to believe me that it's true to make it so...right? Or there is just a variant missing in the equation? Vegas puts great faith in the random certainties...That's no reason not to chance..yet on any given day the suckers win...some of them big<g> Nobody cares if the percentage don't!

To: ahhaha who wrote (13525)	4/14/2001 1:46:47 AM
From: Webster Groves	Respond to of 17977

"Is there a physics theory that jointly deals with discrete and continuous phenomena? There is, but none of you SI clowns are anywhere near to having the ability or inclination to go there." Which theory is that ? -wg

To: ahhaha who wrote (13525)	4/14/2001 10:29:26 AM
From: LPS5	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17977

A graphic representation contains no more information than the raw data it portrays. In fact, it tends to mislead by using the brain's tendency to find patterns, but find patterns in what? The same patterns occur in random processes like coin tosses. Agreed; as Gould said, "What is history all about if not the exquisite delight of knowing the details - and not only the abstract patterns." (Emphasis added.) This is also one part of the issue I have with people who have become addicted to the sparse, often useless information offered via Level II subscriptions. Is there a physics theory that jointly deals with discrete and continuous phenomena? I'm going to take a stab here and attempt to yank myself free of the broad class which you've labeled "SI clowns." I'm guessing that you're talking about those theories which deal with systems which shift randomly between a steady state and a dynamic, nonlinear state. Stochastic behaviors in deterministic systems as decribed in various forms by Mandelbrot, Percival, Stewart, and Lorentz. Without using the actual word...is this the area of physics you're referring to? LPS5