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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Chris land who wrote (11317)	4/14/2001 4:37:47 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 82486

Just like the one about Saul being a secret agent for Rome, ah ha I'll never forget that one. It is an interesting theory, isn't it?! I will probably put together a small essay on that possibility in the next couple of months. In the meantime, why not read this?!! Some theologians and historians believe that many of the details of Jesus' life were "borrowed" from a competing, contemporary religion, Mithraism. Mithra was a fictional character who was worshipped as a Good Shepherd, the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, and the Messiah. A religion in his name was founded in the 6th century BCE. 5 Mithraism one of the most popular of religions in the Roman Empire, particularly among its soldiers and civil servants. It was Christianity's leading rival. 19 Like Jesus, Mithra was believed to have been born of a virgin on DEC-25. He was visited by shepherds and by Magi. He traveled through the countryside, taught, and performed miracles with his 12 disciples. He cast out devils, returned sight to the blind, healed the lame, etc. Symbols associated with Mithra were a Lion and a Lamb. He held a last supper, was killed, buried in a rock tomb. He rose again after three days later, at the time of the spring equinox, circa MAR-21. He later ascended into heaven. Mithraism celebrated the anniversary of his resurrection, similar to the Christian Easter. They held services on Sunday. Rituals included a Eucharist and six other sacraments that corresponded to later Christian rituals. Some individuals who are skeptical about stories of Jesus' life suspect that Christianity may have appropriated many details of Mithraism in order to make their religion more acceptable to Pagans. St. Augustine even stated that the priests of Mithra worshipped the same God as he did. 19 religioustolerance.org

To: Chris land who wrote (11317)	4/14/2001 5:06:36 PM
From: average joe	Respond to of 82486

"All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword,'said Svejk." "I knew a chap called Paroubek who kept a pub in Liben. Once a tinker got himself drunk in his bar on jalovcova(1) and began to swear and say that the jalovcova was weak, that Paroubek had put water in it and that if he had been going around as a tinker for a hundred years and for all his earning had only bought jalovcova and had drunk it up all at one go, he would still be capable of walking a tight-rope and of carrying Paroubek in his arms over it. After that he told Paroubek that was a huncut(2) and the monster of Sascin(3). Then dear old Paroubek caught hold of him, knocked him across the skull with his mouse-traps and wires, kicked him out of the pub, beat him all the way to the Invalidovna with the pole for pulling down the shop shutters, chased him like a madman across the Invalidovna to Karlin up to Zizkov and from there across the Zidovske pece to Malesice, where he finally broke the stick on him and could return to Liben. But in his blind fury he forgot of course that all the public were still in his pub and that all those thugs would be helping themselves. And when he finally got back he saw for himself that this had really been the case. The shutters were half-closed and two cops were standing there, who got pretty tight as well when they tried to put things in order inside. Half of all the stock was drunk up, in the street was an empty rum barrel, and under the counter Paroubek found two bastards that were completely sozzled. The had escaped the attention of the cops and when he dragged them out they wanted to pay him two kreutzers saying that they had not drunk more schnaps than this. That's the reward for hot-headed-ness. It's just like in war. First we defeat our enemy, the we pursue him on and on and in the end we can't run fast enough to get away from him." 1. Schnaps made out of juniper berries. 2. A Hungarian word for a scoundrel 3. Svejk is alluding to Elizabeth Bathory of Cachtice who murdered young girls and bathed in their blood in order to make herself beautiful.