To: geode00 who wrote (13767 ) 4/14/2001 8:17:27 PM From: Math Junkie Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42834 "Where in the world are you getting these numbers from? Are you using his portfolio allocations or are you using your own? " I don't understand what you're confused about. From what he said in his post, he used Brinker's allocations, except that for Portfolio 1A he took half the cash in Portfolio 1 and put it into QQQ on 10/12/00, and for Portfolio 2A he put 30% in QQQ. "Try using the 60% down (at 33) and add that into your Portfolio 1A. That would make it down 25%. " If QQQ were still at 33, that would be a valid comparison. "Are you attempting to prove that Bob's advice isn't the absolutely worst out there? " I don't know what Big Shoulders is attempting to do, but what he actually did do was provide an honest comparison to buy-and-hold. "Want to add in the TEFQX? " If you want to add in a 5% allocation to TEFQX, then you could subtract about 4%. I'm not sure how fair that would be though, since there were 20 different funds listed in the January 2000 Marketimer, and TEFQX is only one of them. A fairer way to do it would be to assume an equal allocation in each fund that he recommends, which would mean that TEFQX would be 1/20th of the 40% that was in equities as of January 2000. I don't have time to run the spreadsheet, but if you divide 0.40 by 20 and multiply by the 80% that TEFQX is down, it is clear that TEFQX would contribute 1.6 percentage points of loss on the total portfolio. That's a pretty good demonstration of the benefits of diversification, BTW. "You could always add the big trips (since last year) for LU and MSFT. " A 4% allocation in MSFT would have contributed 1.8% in loss to the portfolio. LU was not in the newsletter at that time. "Then, why not compare them to the effect of going to cash AS HE SAID HE WOULD if and when he saw a vicious bear coming. Let's use HIS own words shall we? " A 100% allocation to a money market fund would be up about 7 or 8% by now, so that should provide the comparison you're looking for.