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To: Charles R who wrote (35786)4/15/2001 12:51:33 AM
From: Dan3Respond to of 275872
 
Re: but I am baffled on why Intel wants to collapse the high-end pricing. $200 discount for platform I can understand but sub-$400 price point on the top of the line 1.7G chip is totally puzzling.

AMD is selling 1.33GHZ chips that perform as well or better for $215. That AMD chip can be run on an $80 motherboard with 128 meg of RAM that costs $40. Total=$335

The $350 P4 requires a $175 motherboard and $100 worth of RDRAM. Total=$625

Being hobbled by your infrastructure support makes it really tough on a chipmaker. AMD knows all about this....

Regards,

Dan



To: Charles R who wrote (35786)4/15/2001 4:20:36 AM
From: kash johalRespond to of 275872
 
CHARLES,

The PIV infrastructure issues sure are interesting.

My best guess is Intel is gonna throw $$$ at mb,chipset and rambus memory to ensure PIV success.

How they do this without devastating margins will be interesting.

Or ,maybe they've resigned themselves to even a breakeven quarter in Q2.

They always have the excuse of lousy 1-2 quarters and just blame ramp up/transition costs and things will get really sweet at 0.13 micron by year end.

Maybe its a story the analysts will buy?

It's tough not to see horrible numbers from them for next 3-6 months.

regards,

Kash



To: Charles R who wrote (35786)4/15/2001 7:14:10 AM
From: fyodor_Respond to of 275872
 
Chuck: $200 discount for platform I can understand but sub-$400 price point on the top of the line 1.7G chip is totally puzzling.

I think we've seen end of the $500+ consumer CPU.

Btw, in regards to a different post by you, note that AMD's upcoming CPUs (the horseys) will feature on-die thermistors of some kind - so presumably AMD will implement some sort of emergency thermal throttling.

-fyo