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To: Boplicity who wrote (7874)	4/15/2001 10:21:34 PM
From: kas1	Respond to of 10934

OT he was very suspicious individual, particularly of white males. Here is a quote: "White people in America get all up in your face because they think they are gods gift to whole F*ing world." Given the life experiences of Mr Davis and his forefathers in America, is that an unreasonable suspiciousness? Agreed on the great music. Recently I've been listening to Red Garland, who of course played with Davis.

To: Boplicity who wrote (7874)	4/15/2001 10:40:58 PM
From: GGorillaGirl	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10934

Off Topic (more Miles stuff) he was very suspicious individual, particularly of white males. Here is a quote: "White people in America get all up in your face because they think they are gods gift to whole F*ing world." It looks like you got that quote from his autobiography Miles written with Quincy Troupe. That book was widely criticized by the friends and musicians who knew him best. The main gripe by those close to him (as well as colleagues from the industry) was that his quotes were taken out of context and presented in a way to make him look hateful and bitter. After all, brash, in-your-face quotes sell a lot more books than bland, predictable copy. The fact is – Miles Davis experienced a lot of racism toward him when he was coming up as a musician. In addition, while he may have been guilty of bad taste, in the end, he was more of an agitator than anything else. He would make comments to get a rise out of people (at times, in almost an old Don Rickles/attention-grabbing sort of way). As I said in my original post,he loved causing a stir and making controversial statements, but I think it’s a little extreme, especially without knowing the man, to say that he “hated” white people. I stand by that statement. It’s a shame. This same unfounded “racist” label has been hurled at Wynton Marsalis in recent years (both verbally and in print). Completely undeserved as far as I’m concerned. All it takes is one writer to make a comment in the press based on an “interpretation” of an interview. Large numbers of people proceed to read the article, and the misinformation begins. I’ve seen this happen again and again. Unless you know (or, in this case, “knew”) the party involved, I think it’s somewhat irresponsible to throw out “racist” accusations. That's because he was wearing a wig near the end of his life. I realize that. The emoticon that I included in my post [;-)] indicated that the comment was being made in jest. (Actually, now that I think about it, his wig evoked Shirley Temple much more than Diana Ross!) ---> :-))) <--- On the subject of Miles and racism, I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree Boplicity. Fortunately, when it comes to his music, we both agree (enthusiastically it would appear) that his contributions to jazz were beautiful, inspiring, and continually groundbreaking. In the end, that’s probably what counts most, eh? :-) Happy Easter everyone. Back to NTAP discussion! :-) GGorillaGirl