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To: Rande Is who wrote (50575)4/17/2001 12:25:12 PM
From: Frederick Langford  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 57584
 
College...
I believe it is necessary for both boys and girls.
It's not all about a job. A lot is about self concept and feeling ok about themselves.
A college degree gives one confidence and and allows a child to at least feel as if they can achieve their highest expectations. At minimum it shows a child the path for success.

Fred



To: Rande Is who wrote (50575)4/17/2001 12:28:56 PM
From: jjetstream  Respond to of 57584
 
Great post Rande, as a father with 4 (middle schoolish) children, you insights seem dead on....college has changed from when I attended, and I will view my children's college challenge in a whole different perspective....

Geez Rande, forget the stock thang, you should just focus your efforts on writing....<g>



To: Rande Is who wrote (50575)4/17/2001 12:50:16 PM
From: katy hohmann  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 57584
 
FWIW, the preparation for the real world! My son Mark received an MBA from Stanford in 1998. His class at this time has the highest unemployment rate of any class in a long time. This is because the largest percentage ever went into start-ups, and many have gone bankrupt, including my son's, Katmango. Mark said there are jobs, but not as many choices. He says he will do it again and again, until he gets it right (but meanwhile, he hopes to consult). Katy in Annapolis, where the parking lot at USIX is always full.



To: Rande Is who wrote (50575)4/17/2001 6:18:51 PM
From: fastcats  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 57584
 
OT on college...
Rande – After four successful navigations (our own & two kid’s) through the college morass, my wife and I have developed several precepts regarding college:
&#61623; The fundamental purpose of college is to teach one HOW TO THINK. The further one goes, of course, the more abstract that process becomes. Some of us have the thinking process adequately developed in high school to sally forth directly, but most do not.
&#61623; A significant secondary purpose is SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT. Not everyone needs the college experience. But many kids graduating from high school lack the maturity and social skills to thrive in the working world, in whatever form that may take. College gives them the opportunity to make decisions, try new things, deal with stress, and generally experience life in a somewhat protected, loosely structured environment, usually without a great deal of parental involvement.
&#61623; It is vital that a student have a real INTEREST IN THE COURSE OF STUDY that he or she has chosen… not one that Mom or Dad chose, not one that is uninteresting but can lead to astronomical income, but one that will motivate her to learn (and thereby learn to think).
&#61623; Choose an APPROPRIATE INSTITUTION, one that will have the greatest chance of fulfilling the twin objectives of challenging him to learn while giving him the maximum opportunity for success. As you noted, companies look at how a person has done in college. Secondarily, they also look at the quality of the institution and curriculum. Some areas of the country get outrageously parochial about one’s institutional pedigree. (I live in the Boston area, one of the worst in that regard.) On balance, though, I agree that it is better to excel at a lesser institution than to scrape by at a prestigious one.
&#61623; “SUCCESS” IS NOT GUARANTEED BY A COLLEGE DEGREE. Success takes many forms and can come to people of all abilities. Work with assessment instruments that measure rates of learning and personality characteristics shows that people with “normal” mental capacity are somewhat more likely to succeed in business than the brightest among us. Perhaps the quest for perfection and other pursuits of a “holy grail” interfere with the rapid decision cycles one encounters in business. A college education may aid the thinking skills, but may also needlessly delay the pursuit of a passion by four years.
Two brief stories:
I developed my learn-to-think precept somewhat by force. When I tried to switch majors in college, the dean reviewed my grades in the related foundation courses and announced that I should stay where I was. His reasoning was that I would be more likely to achieve better grades, and more importantly, that all they were trying to do there was… you guessed it… teach me how to think. Many years and many corporate subordinates later I truly believe he was right.
And my kids each chose a major that had little likelihood of generating significant income. Although we encouraged them to study what they loved, we also cautioned them to be aware that parental support ended with the degree. I am happy to say that both did extremely well in school and today both are very successful financially. They really enjoy what they are doing and have been able to build directly on their respective language and arts educations. It seems the old adage… "Do what you love and love what you do"… also applies to college.
Sorry for the length… you hit a soft spot.
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