To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (11716 ) 4/17/2001 5:20:41 PM From: Greg or e Respond to of 82486 "After those two lengthy non-sequiturs" Well James they were indeed lengthy, but the fact you saw them as being non-sequitur (that which does not follow... ), tells me you are not reading or thinking clearly (perhaps both). It seems you are the one not following James, as it was you that said "the only thing that really matters in the entire NT: that the resurrection happened. " As I seem to be vastly outnumbered here with regards to this admittedly central question, I posted that article as it seemed salient to several different attacks that have been directed my way recently. Most notably the argument that Christianity, is based on other, older, mythological stories and was merely adapted to fit the life and death of Jesus. However as the title of the article was "EASTER, MYTH, HALLUCINATION, or HISTORY" In fact the last part of the article(which you apparently did not read) deals with the early dating of the actual N.T. documents, which did not allow time for the insertion of myths in to the story as is the case for later non biblical writings. "Because the Bible can be an accurate historical account but if the connection to God is not established, then it is just another history book." Again I believe you are not thinking before you speak. If the Bible is an accurate historical account, and that account contains eyewitness testimony that such miracles as you described actually happened, then the "God ...connection" is established. Perhaps you should be clearer on what exactly, your asking of me, since you have already shifted the parameters of our discussion once, and now, appear ready to do so again. If your criteria for "proof" regarding historical events, is repeatability, then you are simply asking too much. If on the other hand you are willing to accept reason and primary documentary evidence, while avoiding begging the central questions, then perhaps we have something to discuss. I look forward to hearing from you. Greg