To: thames_sider who wrote (11909 ) 4/18/2001 8:29:41 PM From: one_less Respond to Like I said, I am not trying to convince anybody of God's existence. You either hold such a belief or you don't. Arguing or debating has never changed that for anybody, as far as I know."we are *meant* to fail, and know unhappiness?" I did not say this and don't agree with it, but I am happy to comment on it. We are tested in many ways on a daily basis. There are all kinds of references to how testy life can be and is. Most people will concede that when we deal with difficulties in life and work through them, we are better people for it down the road. Make of that whatever you want."Or, if you don't believe that all created beings do is in accordance with the absolute will of their perfect creator, then therefore even a perfect God *needs* to create something - even if in so doing it passes the limits of its own perfection by creating something imperfect..." "needs" to create something imperfect. I figure creation is perfect and it is no reflection of a need God possesses. There is a great deal going on that is unknown to me and plenty that is simply unknowable in my current limited state. As we can only know an infintessimally small aspect of creation, it doesn't seem logical to declare that it is imperfect."I think I've used this argument against the worship of such a deity... since if true, worship is by definition pointless since we are only doing what is designed, and our very belief (or lack of) is inarguable. Or, what would a perfect God want with an imperfect creation anyhow? hmm, angels on a pin time <g>"
