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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Neocon who wrote (12033)4/19/2001 5:56:04 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 82486
 
>Anyone who accepts the reality of the human world described
would find resonance in the idea of divinity, as being the only way that meaning could triumph over accident and
purpose could be instilled in things...... <

?

I don't see how this follows at all. It follows for you, I don't see how you could possibly know if it follows for everyone, or even most people.



To: Neocon who wrote (12033)4/19/2001 6:05:54 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
And, in any case, we are surer of the human world that I described than of the abstraction from our senses presented by scientism

I mentioned earlier that I thought that your human world fit just fine in Russell's model. I don't understand this all or nothing thing. If both your world and Russell's words resonate with me, what contradiction do you see?

Anyone who accepts the reality of the human world described would find resonance in the idea of divinity...


Unless you think I'm lying or nuts, that's obviously not the case.

Karen



To: Neocon who wrote (12033)4/22/2001 7:10:12 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
Did you say something a couple or three days ago to the effect that Russell's world was inhuman? I thought I had read a rather pointed statement in that line, but now I find only oblique references to the inhuman world inhabited by those who do not believe they are supernatural.

Do you believe that people who do not believe in the supernatural are human? Or is it possible that they really are not?