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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Scumbria who wrote (139529)	4/19/2001 9:00:46 PM
From: SecularBull	Respond to of 769667

Sc, you make jokes about the GWB tax cut already having an effect, while at the same time giving WJC unfettered claim to the positive aspects of the full eight years of his administration (1993-2000). If Bush's tax cut cannot have a positive effect at this early date, how can Clinton claim eight years of anything going back to 1993? Seems to me this year, at best, has more to do with his Presidency than Bush's. However, I am sure that you'll provide us with a text book explanation for this phenomenon. ~SB~ PS. GDP growth was faster as I recall during George Sr.'s last year of office than during any year of the greatest Presidency in history.

To: Scumbria who wrote (139529)	4/19/2001 9:21:05 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769667

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To: Scumbria who wrote (139529)	4/19/2001 9:21:31 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Other than the Ireland situation which is far from settled, Clinton had little or nothing to do with the items on your list. Thank A. Greenspan, the Republican Congress and the American people. In fact welfare reform was passed over the scumbag's vociferous objection and once he was forced to get on board he promised to "fix it", ie undo it. You need to get a little reality. JLA

To: Scumbria who wrote (139529)	4/19/2001 9:31:15 PM
From: SecularBull	Respond to of 769667

What Clinton-sponsored legislation led to welfare reform? Northern Ireland? Well thank God for that... Nine National Monuments? Well thank God for that... Unprecedented peace and prosperity? Oh really? Never happended before? Never had GDP grow that quickly? Really? ~SB~

To: Scumbria who wrote (139529)	4/19/2001 10:14:39 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Dear scum, I always love the way you ascribe to one individual all those things that are the process of all and many working together to accomplish. You pick as an individuals achievement things that happened while mr. bill sat in the oval office having sex with young homely females. The negatives that mr bill carries as firsts are mr. bill's own personal acts and crimes and lies. No one but mr. bill is responsible. So I see 6 scummy mr bill first's of mr. bill and by mr. bill and for mr. bill. You reply with six circumstances, several of which have been credibly questioned as to who was, if any one individual was responsible. So as an engineer I say the you have presented a dumber than dirt case for you position. Of course I find your post and arguments consistent with past posts of bogus facts, logic and reason. But thinking scums way. First president with an energy policy that lead to rolling blackout from now untill the ....... you all have a nice day now, hear. Depressing the key of a manual typewriter. 10e-1J or 100,000 erg from watman.com tom watson tosiwmee

To: Scumbria who wrote (139529)	4/20/2001 8:52:56 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Your inclusion of welfare reform, which was indisputably forced on him by the Republicans, is indicative of the reliability of your portrait. The reason, more than anything, that the budget was finally balanced was that Reagan and Bush won the Cold War, and therefore we were able to downsize the military. In other words, the cause of Reagan's willingness to run up deficits (prevailing over the Soviet Union) was also their cure. Of course, a corollary is that Clinton inherited unprecedented peace and prosperity, after the brief recession caused by structural adjustments as the defense establishment reduced its size. (The Bush recession lasted less than a year, and growth resumed at a robust pace). Of course, in the end, the acceleration of growth after 95 had mostly to do with the digital revolution. As for crime dropping, the major cities were fortunate to mostly have Republican mayors. Also, in analyzing what happened, almost every serious analyst agrees that the crack wars of the 80s finally resolved themselves. Players were killed or incarcerated, and territories were stabilized, so that gang warfare decreased markedly. Additionally, both Republican and Democrat urban administrations began instituting community policing and following the "broken windows" thesis, that letting too much slide at a lower level encourages a sense of lawlessness. In the case of Northern Ireland, a lot of groundwork was prepared before his administration by the parties themselves, for example, in increasing cooperation between London and Dublin, and the heavy lifting was done by George Mitchell. As for the National Monuments, well, those were quite controversial, and not clearly correct decisions.......