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To: Mark Adams who wrote (96595)	4/19/2001 9:15:07 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

Ratio of debt payment to total family income is around 15%, but that includes mortgages, automobiles, everything. In 1995 it was 13.6%, in 1992 it was 14.1%, in 1989 it was 12.7% federalreserve.gov

To: Mark Adams who wrote (96595)	4/19/2001 9:43:10 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

It seems counterintuitive to me, but according to the data in the Fed's consumer surveys, household debt ratios rise during economic expansions, and savings rates rise during economic contractions.

To: Mark Adams who wrote (96595)	4/20/2001 11:20:54 AM
From: pater tenebrarum	Respond to of 436258

Mark, i'm keeping your post in evidence and will on occasion post the relevant links to you. my sources, off the cuff, are the Fed, Curtis Priest's citizen debt watch, contraryinvestor, and a few others. also regarding your comment re. p/e's and Russell, i believe i can show why Russell's arguments can NOT be dismissed so easily. however, that requires/deserves more than a cursory reply, so i'm keeping that for later as well. i'll have to get some charts and links together here as well.