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To: gao seng who wrote (406)	4/22/2001 1:54:09 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1112

The idea that we deserve Hell, which is conceived as a place of everlasting torment, due to the Fall is questionable. We do not deserve heaven, that much is true.....Nice material on Satan....

To: gao seng who wrote (406)	4/30/2001 4:14:04 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1112

I think it is not God's choice that we spend eternity in Hell, but our choice to elect not to spend eternity in Hell. It is through God's mercy that we have this choice re: John 3:16 If we choose not to decide, we still have made a choice via default. And the default is Hell. If the default is Hell, then is it not to some extent God's choice. God created the universe, so God set the default. The default could have been that we just end, or it could have been reincarnation, or after life existence that falls short oh Heaven but is not eternal suffering. Tim