To: dfloydr who wrote (3662 ) 4/23/2001 10:28:59 PM From: Zeuspaul Respond to of 23153 You summed up the issues very well. Your post should be framed and sent to all fifty state legislatures as required reading before they vote on deregulation measures.Importantly, most PUC's allowed a utility to include in it's rate base a percentage of excess capacity ... often as much as 20%. Score one for regulated power. Why would anyone want a power system without excess capacity? There are too many unknowns. We are dependent on weather and the whims of foreign nations. It seems like excess capacity should be a given. The current California crisis seems to be the perfect example. Sans the drought in the NW the crisis would hardly exist.Investors willing to settle for steady but modest income streams invested in utility stocks or utility bonds. It was pretty dull. Companies in fast growing areas grew a bit faster than others. Generally people expected 4 to 5% returns with an occasional 6 or 7%. Score two for regulated power. There are significant numbers of investors who prefer dull investments. Is the lack of high risk investments so great that we have to move the low risk investments to high risk investments?Accordingly the old thinking of cost plus a modest percentage = a fair price for electricity is history. Score three for regulated power. I might add stable cost. Why is that a bad idea for the end user? Are we moving to market power solely to satisfy a few high risk oriented investors? Is the entire US population supposed to gyrate with the ups and downs of the electric market?Now the pricing scale has to change. Under the old system, with lots of built in excess capacity, the cost of which was shared by all, it was OK to give big users a discount. After all if they used a bit more, the excess capacity was there to be had. Now, with companies running "lean", incremental usage is probably the most expensive kilowatt. Prices should now escalate as usage goes up to reflect the fact that the incremental usage is what is going to pay for new, more expensive sources of power. Score four for regulated power. What's wrong with giving big users a discount? Why not give business an edge in a competitive world. What better way to use excess capacity? What's wrong with a buffer?I also have no doubt that some pricing has swung to extremes. This will happen in a new market ... but let it swing ... it will balance out once the impact flows through to the consumers and they cut back in response. Remember, price is a real source of information. Mess with price and you obscure the information and blur the response. It sounds like this should be done in a university setting. If California is to be the experiment then there should be some consideration for the trial and error period. Draining 50 Billion bucks from a state economy because the situation is beyond the comprehension of the politicians seems rather harsh. by a little careful planning they cut both their electric and gas consumption by 40+% I am down about forty percent too. We walk around in a dark cold house...use CF lighting when we need to see and use pressure cookers. Not exactly my idea of progress.So CA, stop bitching and start switching Smile while we pick your pockets<g>As whitepine suggests, get out of the myth phase of your thinking. Better yet...use regulated power like the rest of the nation. Zeuspaul