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To: c.horn who wrote (9)4/23/2001 4:55:51 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32
 
Also, if you take the B52s album and make 50 cassette copies, the quality of the music will be severely degraded. However, if you are making digital copies off of a digital master, there is no degradation in quality and therefore these copies are direct competition to the professional product.

I think that this just amplifies the issue rather than dismissing the 50 cassette example that you gave.

oh and....Quahog has great taste in music.



To: c.horn who wrote (9)4/23/2001 4:58:54 PM
From: Quahog  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 32
 
I am definitely stuck in a time warp,
as far as music is concerned.

There is some new music I listen to (but I admit I haven't bought a CD in years).

I'm not so sure your analogy is accurate: But the difference is you are not taking your friend's B52 album home and copying it with 50 cassette recorders going 24/7

As far as I can tell, neither is Napster....or any Napster user.

As you may know, Napster itself does not possess or store any of the music on its own servers, nor does it do the copying. I'm no techie, but I understand that Napster is simply an "enabler," allowing two users to swap music. These users are also not making multiple copies of the same song, as there is no need to. So there is no one person or company making 50 copies of "Freebird" every day, but rather there are 50 individuals around the world each making his own copy from many other individual user's copies. The only difference between that and making copies via cassette tape is that with Napster we are able to track the volume of copies made......and music industry executives can get a printout and see exactly how much money they've been losing all of this time.

I like the idea of adding a surcharge to tapes to pay for copyright infringement. Of course, the fact that the tax is there is evidence that movie studios once considered taping to be an infringement....and a compromise was reached. It is the same with Napster, in my opinion. In fact, I believe that Napster is currently trying to negotiate some kind of similar surcharge from users for the same purpose.

P.S. If you have never used Napster before (and assuming it is still working), it is really amazing to be able to think of some obscure song that you haven't heard in twenty years, and within seconds to be listening to it. That "Dead Puppies" song is a good example. I never would have gone into a record store to try and find the album. I don't even know who sang it. I probably would never have heard the song again if not for deciding to try Napster to see what the fuss was all about.



To: c.horn who wrote (9)4/23/2001 10:30:09 PM
From: Bicycle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32
 
...Taping a show or movie on a blank VHS to give to a friend is not stealing...

Maybe you're doing the opposite of stealing. You're also copying the commercials so they will be watched by additional eyeballs.

Is Napster Stealing?

I was taught that if I came into posession of things that I didn't purchase at a fair price honestly negotiated with the rightful owner, I had not acquired them legitimately; therefore, they didn't belong to me.

The test was simple: Did I pay for it? Was the price fair? Did the seller have the right to sell it? Do music files from Napster pass these tests?

Bye4Now, Fred.



To: c.horn who wrote (9)4/24/2001 9:30:26 PM
From: nolimitz  Respond to of 32
 
re: Taping a show or movie on a blank VHS to give to a friend is not stealing.. You have already paid for it.. Every blank tape has a small tax added to it and that money goes to TV shows, Feature films and a number of other places that off hand I can't remember

So why not add tax to blank CD's, the Cd burner and a portion of every Hard drive sold in the world to pay royalities to the record companys? Just being the Devils Advocate. Only used Napster 1-2 times.