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To: Richard P. who wrote (37185)	4/24/2001 11:41:31 AM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Rick: No. It is Alt-1 and Alt-2 but mostly not printable. In DOS it is printable with some screen editors. I'll admit I wasn't aware of that ;-) However... the first 32 elements of both the original ASCII codes and the extended ASCII codes (00 to 1F and 80 to 9F in hex) are "control characters", not printable characters. That some fonts map them to smileys and what-not... well... that's actually unfortunate, as it promotes non-compatability in an otherwise firm standard (iso8859). Ahh, I think I see the problem! [15 minutes pass as fyo frantically searches his bookmarks] Microsoft mucked it up, by hijacking the first 32 elements of the extended code set ([80;9F]) adding, e.g., , , , and . Maybe something similar was done to [00;1F]. Btw, the examples above (e.g. ) were done using the HTML character codes, ensuring proper display on all systems (well, ok, a better chance of..., anyway). These are basically the same as the ALT codes, but written with and & and a # in front, e.g. &#140 for . On some browsers ALT+140 will do the same. Ahhh, but I see the light! There's a shortcut to this! Use ALT+0140 ;-). (this may or may not work for all systems - for max compatibility use the HTML character codes). Still cannot get (or explain) the smileys and other < 20h codes. /shrug Always enjoy your posts. Thanks. -fyo