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To: Dr Mike who wrote (4694)	4/25/2001 2:59:13 AM
From: EUGENETUCK	Respond to of 4908

Dr. Mike, did you miss the 231 deaths for the Ford explorer 2-door midsize? Or the more than 100 on the large Explorer 4-door? Maybe I didn't look at it long enough, but those numbers seemed higher than the large sedans. However, I'm very satisfied with the numbers for my Astro van. I need it for its versatility.....and now I see that it's safe, too. However, I realize those numbers depend a lot on what type of people drive the different vehicles, and I haven't noticed many hot-rodders driving Astros.

To: Dr Mike who wrote (4694)	4/26/2001 8:50:48 AM
From: Maverick	Respond to of 4908

Siemens has good reason to be looking for cash: cbs.marketwatch.com US dollar value contributing to OE ADR price problems: cbs.marketwatch.com Look up gasoline prices in any US state: 208.13.208.31 Ford in China: auto.com biz.yahoo.com Snowmobile ban update: gaea.calstart.org Federal incentives for clean cars: detroitnews.com gaea.calstart.org Fiat/Opel JV: biz.yahoo.com Small, less sophisticated automaker outdesigns the big guys: msnbc.com Dr. Mike: that fatality count link isn't good reference data. Too many variables. As you mentioned, the units aren't really correct and the propensity for less responsible drivers to drive certain vehicles isn't corrected. Plus to obtain this data you have all sorts of different agencies reporting the data? I make decisions based on the actual crash testing of the vehicle I'm interested in. There are two organizations that provide data, and you should look at both: nhtsa.dot.gov hwysafety.org Choose your vehicle from those two organizations: nhtsa.dot.gov hwysafety.org The DOT's NHTSA site is a wealth of auto information: nhtsa.dot.gov By consumers selectively considering crash information, they've created a weight escalation that mirrors the nuclear arms race. Weight is the enemy. Yes, if you are in a heavier vehicle in a multi-vehicle collision, your acceleration (you're hit while moving slower) or deceleration (you hit another vehicle while moving faster) forces will be lower than they would have been in a lighter vehicle. However, in several situations that weight won't help, and it ignores the other big problems that weight is creating outside crash performance: Fuel economy drops. Large vehicles degrade other vehicle's ability to see ahead. Braking distances increase. The vehicle's ability to suddenly change direction to avoid an accident drops. The heavier vehicles tend to have a higher center of gravity, rolling them in a spin. The "trucks" tend not to have side air bags or the latest technology air bags. Exhaust emissions increase. More raw materials and energy are consumed for vehicle construction, which also increases pollution. Engineers will tell you weight is the enemy. You have to consider all factors. You buy a bigger vehicle. Then your neighbor buys a bigger vehicle. It's the nuclear arms race all over again. Yeah, I know, we're back in debate. I just think most people overlook the big picture. rfritz10: great Sundiro links comparing their DFI 2S to their 4S !

To: Dr Mike who wrote (4694)	8/1/2001 9:16:16 AM
From: Maverick	Respond to of 4908

One of the two dirty secrets is leaking out: msnbc.com The average person has no appreciation for the amount of design that goes into modern automobiles. Just as the high speed offset crash test of four door pickups recently showed, there was no correlation between performance and size. The heavy American trucks did poorly, but the Toyota Tundra did well. Size and weight are massive oversimplification. DESIGN makes the vehicle safe. And a properly engineered vehicle is safe without being 4000 pounds. This is how Volvo sells cars. No, I don't own a Volvo. The other dirty secret is how the fool cell crowd ignores the pollution created by converting energy into the fuel that a fool cell uses. Fuel economy debate at full song: public.wsj.com detroitnews.com biz.yahoo.com detroitnews.com Delphi picks up another auto emissions work award: biz.yahoo.com