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To: Think4Yourself who wrote (3765)	4/25/2001 11:48:23 AM
From: Second_Titan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23153

I thought the shoulder season was the end for the E&P's? I was hoping for lower reentry points but they dont seem to be on the horizon.

To: Think4Yourself who wrote (3765)	4/25/2001 3:09:04 PM
From: Bruce L	Respond to of 23153

Re: Story of Claims of Police Harassment Disproven in Court by Videotapes Things that should be remembered: (1) Police have a lot of "dead" time on their hands and they are nearly all good ( and credible) story tellers; (2) they all hate reports of police harassment and they all love stories that belittle these reports (and anyone that spends time with police men and women knows this to be the case.) The story your police friend related to you, John Q, simply doesn't ring true to me, especially the court procedure part where claims are made and instantly disproven by videotapes in some sort of fast track court forum. It does ring true, however, as the very type of story that police like to repeat. My background: 30+ years ago I was a young DA that frequently "rode" with the police and listened to their stories. I spent 10 years as a prosecutor and then 25 + years in a general law practice in Calif. which included 3 police harassment suits (which settled) but listened over the years to dozens of credible (to me) complaints from ordinary citizens. <I didn't take more because city, county and state governments as a matter of SOP drag them out procedurally to discourage attorneys from bringing them; and because juries historically are very resistant to believing anything about "their" police.> Politically, I am a fairly conservative republican and have always in presidential elections voted Republican. I still have police friends (mostly retired) and talk with them still about issues such as these. That said, I agree with Ed - who put things very well - on this issue. I most fear governmental (and its delgated) intrusions on my liberty. I will add only one point to what Ed said: Police do have a difficult "dirty" job dealing with the worst 5% of the population for the most part. A policeman will first step over the line with these sorts. They will deal out a little "street justice" and they will punish or arrest for nothing more than "comtempt of cop." But once they step over that line, it becomes all too easy to apply the same behavior and require the same deference with "normal" people. Why should we law-abiding people care? Because if one condones wrong when done to people who don't matter, or who even deserve it, it is going to happen to you - or more likely - your son or daughter, late at night in a lonely spot where the power of that policeman is the only thing that matters. Bruce I'll I'll add only