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To: RetiredNow who wrote (52146)4/25/2001 9:10:22 PM
From: Stock Farmer  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 77400
 
Hi Mindmeld - let's be specific.

I used 3.9 B$ as eFCF to start because I eliminated the recontribution to the company by purchasing shareholders.

It is clearly not fair to value the dollars in the right pocket to include those that will be taken from the left pocket as "incremental".

Also, I think you must have assumed some sort of share buyback in the order of several billion shares or so along the way because outstanding shares are over 7.4 B already with another 0.5 B options granted plus whatever options will be granted over the next 34 years at about 0.2 B per year.

So if you take out the 8 billion share buyback x 16$ average price your DCF model would represent = 125 B$ from the 130 B$ you came up with, well the kitty is drained to about a buck a share or so. Alternately, CSCO could stop issuing stock options or... maybe the price goes down... I don't know.

My $4 looks generous.

Jay's math doesn't help things much either.

John.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (52146)4/25/2001 10:00:24 PM
From: Wyätt Gwyön  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400
 
mindmeld,
I would want to knock all the options stuff out of that 6.1BB figure for FY00 before I'd call it CF from OPERATIONS. Real opg. CF was, I figure, about 2BB.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (52146)4/26/2001 8:28:54 PM
From: bambs  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400
 
sorry, since csco entered the teens i haven't been reading the thread much. After csco enter's the single digits next year I will be reading even less.

bambs