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To: The Philosopher who wrote (12597)	4/29/2001 1:39:59 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Hmmmm My classical studies classes, and I took many, comprised Greek, Roman and European classics (Medeterannean). There may BE other classics, but they weren't in my classics courses. Here are several other classics courses: uky.edu hmmmm Greeks and Romans, what a surprise! classics.ohiou.edu again ..the Mediterranean world...funny how that keeps cropping up. Could it be the classics, are still...the "classics"? hnet.uci.edu chass.utoronto.ca Oh dear, more Greeks and Romans. Are you arguing that the Greeks and Romans were not primarily Caucasians? This would be an interesting and novel take on the classics unsupported by any data I am aware of . The ancient world was diverse, but the world taught in classics programs is not. Greek and Latin are the languages, and Greece and Rome are the primary focus of study. If one wishes to study Egyptology (for example) one studies Egyptology- that is not generally included in the "Classics" curriculum. I do not understand your need to deny the obvious reality of classics programs. They are what they are. What's the problem? We study Caucasians (albeit long dead Greek and Roman ones)- I should think you would find this thrilling and very non-PC that so much of it is apparently taking place in the universities which are always assumed to be bastions of PC thought. ps- a highlight from Toronto: "The Field of classics is Ancient Greek and Roman civilization as a whole" Perhaps you ought to give them a ring or write them a letter to tell them they are a bit off base with their classics program. You might want to contact every other university while your at it. The mistake seems to be somewhat universal.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (12597)	4/29/2001 5:43:44 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I forgot to mention St John's "Great Books" classics program. Please note the reading programs... sjca.edu Quite...Eurocentric. In fact totally Eurocentric. It's your school, not mine. But it's odd that you have a problem with PC women's studies and ethnic studies when there is available, and you went to, a school that quite clearly has nothing of the kind. Dear Jane Austen breaks the testosterone fest in Junior year, but aside from her it is quite the Male Studies Program. You need not mourn the passing of the white male curriculum- it is alive and well at your alma mater. Let all who wish to imbibe it, do so. I've no problem with it. I love the classics. I like other things as well, outside of the realm of those works typically viewed as "classics". I have found great Indian works and Indian poetry to be the equal of anything in the west. I have found Eastern writings that are also the equal of anything in the West. Classics are defined by the people in power. Right now those people, in the West, are still mostly male and mostly white. When this changes in a really meaningful way the "classics" may change a bit. It will be interesting to see.