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To: Keith Feral who wrote (98519)	4/30/2001 10:09:12 AM
From: Mika Kukkanen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

Keith: Can you point me somewhere that mentions the Korean companies have selected WCDMA that is backward compatible to their cdma networks? Most of the ballyhoo is about the air interface and i seem to recollect that they went with the Euro-Japanese standard. I know things take time, I saw the first analog and digital networks roll-out and the same guff I am hearing now happened then - aint nothing new about "delays". As for Qcom getting royalties, it certainly wasn't my first direct admission. Once things got "sorted out" a couple of years ago I had mentioned it several times. As for Qcom assuming a full role as a WCDMA standard developer, that again is complete fabrication - they were invited, several times, to join into the standardisation of WCDMA and refused. No discussions as it was either "their way or no way" - I was heavily involved in the ETSI adoption of WCDMA, although the first battle was against the Alcatel/Siemens alliance (but I bet you didn't know there was a inter-European battle that proceeded any trans-Atlantic one?).

To: Keith Feral who wrote (98519)	5/1/2001 4:14:14 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

<To talk about WCDMA as if it were a completed standard is misleading. It will not be completed before summer. What do you call a WCDMA if it is synchronous and asysnchronous? Just synchronous? WCDMA2000. <g>> Keith, I might have to relabel VW40 as VW2000. Which implies it's moving out of the slimy era of the hagfish [GG] and is metamorphosing into something useful [a bit like the old Nazi-era Volkswagen bug was reincarnated as that hot new car which is selling in swarms]. Vapour-wear 2000! Still covering up the GG nudity with transparent emperor clothes but with some realism taking form. Folks, here is 'engineer' with why the unsynchronized, concatenated, convoluted mess with a weird chip rate which is VW2000 is going to change from VW40: From the elitist zone [which isn't all that elite as we elitists even sometimes let Jon Koplik make a funny and he only went to Yale or somewhere]: <http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=15738590 > [I should also point out that Caxton and Ramsey post there too - in the elitist zone - which really shows how 'elite' it is]. [Heck, even Pierre and Keith Feral are tolerated at times...] Mqurice PS: I liked the time the classy Wharton guy [John Goren] and Jon [who obviously can't spell] were peeing at the urinal and Jon walked out without washing his hands. John called to Jon "Hey! Didn't they teach you Yale people to wash your hands?" Jon called back, "What for? They taught us not to pee on our hands or lean on the wall". [Ladies, some men lean with one hand on the wall in a drunken state to prevent themselves falling into the urinal]. Anyway, I'm off back to the elitist place now....I don't like the bathroom humour which goes on here...