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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (12680)	5/1/2001 2:13:53 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I'm not sure if you could count children who were born because of the statements and actions of Mother Theresa's followers to be "born as a direct result of Mother Theresa's statements against birth control", but even if it is indirect I conceed that MT is as morally responsible for something that she taught through her followers as she is for something she taught directly. So while technically it may not be as a "direct" result, that fact isn't all that important in the context of the overall discussion. Your original statement talked about "to bring these poor children into the world to live and die in the most brutal conditions", so only children that lived and died in the most brutal conditions would count. You still might reach the millions range but its hard to establish this for sure. Not only is it difficult or impossible to tell exactly why someone made a decision years ago but also determining exactly what "the most brutal conditions" mean is somewhat subjective. If the effect of MTs statements in India did cause millions of children to be born and live horrible lives of poverty in "the most brutal conditions" I would imagine it would have to be at the very low end of the millions range. India is not a Catholic country, and even in Catholic countries statements against birth control by the church are frequently ignored by Catholics. Tim

To: Solon who wrote (12680)	5/1/2001 2:37:36 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

Let's see now. Your position, as I hear it, is that MT is responsible for all the babies born as a result of people who didn't use birth control. So. Anbody who advocaes successfully against alcohol prohibition is personally responsible for all the deaths by alcohol on our nation's highways. Or would it simply be that any legislators who voted against the death penalty for anybody convicted of a DUI is personally responsible for any deaths which are caused by drivers who formerly had a DUI? And of course anybody who advocated successfully against a total ban on all guns not in the police or military is responsible for the deaths at Columbine and elsewhere. There's a certain logic in your position, but it frankly doesn't appeal much to me. I do think that people are responsible for their own actions, and for their decisions as to what advice they choose tol listen to and what they don't. But I like your logic in one instance: any poster on SI who touted ADCT while it was above 40 is responsible for all my losses from having decided to buy it. Now if I can only persuade a judge and jury to accept your logic.