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To: Dan3 who wrote (133871)5/1/2001 1:05:51 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dan, <Not nearly as big and hot as P4/Foster, but still pretty big and hot.>

If you haven't noticed, Athlon still generates more heat than the Pentium 4, even though the P4 runs at higher clock speeds and has a larger die size.

As for large heatsinks, I just installed a GHz Pentium III last weekend. It was the retail boxed version, complete with the standard-issue heatsink and fan. Now that baby is HUGE for an FC-PGA processor. Yet during normal operation, the heatsink is very cool to the touch, even cooler than the heatsink on my old 600 MHz Slot 1 Pentium III (also Coppermine).

Why the Gigamine would need such a beefy cooling solution is beyond me, but perhaps Intel would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to thermal issues.

Tenchusatsu



To: Dan3 who wrote (133871)5/1/2001 2:06:24 PM
From: herb will  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dan “A topic even bigger and hotter, IMHO, is Intel burning up 15 years of accumulated capital in 15 months.” Dan, are sure you are feeling well today. I don’t have the Intel figures for 15 years ago but at the end of 1991 Stockholder’s Equity was $4.418 billion and on March 31, 2001 the total was $36.918 billion. That’s over 8X increase in Stockholders Equity since 1991. You keep harping on the decline in Intel’s working capital yet the working capital ratio actually went up from the previous quarter indicating that the company is doing well in a tough time. The fact they are keeping up with capital expenditures, dividends and stock repurchases is a big plus for stockholders. Sounds like a well-run outfit to me. And don’t forget AMD borrowed $244 million last quarter.
With regard to frying Athlons all I am doing is pointing out to you the serious problem of overheating inherent in the Athlon which does not have internal power management and according to statements made in the Google search if cooling fails the chip will fry in a few seconds. The Pentium 4 on the other hand does have power management, which prevents the chip from frying.

Herb