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To: DavesM who wrote (141703)	5/1/2001 10:52:46 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769667

<<It should actually be a great deal if you're a member of the gentry>> Other than the fact that the first concentration camps are reserved for them. Soon after come the "fellow-travellers", whose usefulness has become obsolete, not to mention the fact that if they couldn't maintain a loyalty to the old, oppressive order, how on Earth can they be expected to be dedicated to the dialectic?...

To: DavesM who wrote (141703)	5/2/2001 2:20:19 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Seems to me, Socialism freezes social and economic classes is place. That certainly was largely the effect of communism. It should actually be a great deal if you're a member of the gentry Communism created a new gentry (the apparatchik and nomenklatura) but it sure was great for them. Not so good for the proletariat, though. While the working classes in most industrialized capitalist countries enjoyed great improvements, they made no or at best small gains- -at the cost of their political freedom. The govt take of GDP was about 32% (still high by US standards). I believe it is higher than 50% today. France is in bad need of shock therapy-- slashing taxes, cutting public servants rolls, raising retirement age, slashing unemployment benefits (90% of salary for a year). You think it will ever happen? These guys would rather be a 3rd World Country (quickly becoming one) rather being rich and capitalist. That is Bernard Levy's statement that started this. It is really hard to believe the weak coalition governments of France will ever muster the political courage to make the necessary changes.