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To: Jack of All Trades who wrote (99779)	5/4/2001 5:31:42 PM
From: pater tenebrarum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

well, the Mexican bail-out was a separate affair. the scandal is that a) it was denied by treasury that the ESF had ANY gold dealings at all in recent years. b) officially, the US gold reserve remains untouched since the gold window was closed by tricky Dick and is not for sale c) it appears Congress knows nothing about all this (that's where the questions regarding ESF gold dealings were asked and the denials voiced). if the ESF really did something to bail out mismatched bullion bank gold lending books , and did it by covertly using US reserves to depress gold prices, in the process destroying the livelihood of countless miners in the developing countries, i'd regard that as quite a scandal. of course the evidence is not yet really conclusive in that regard. but it's more than enough to warrant further investigation. neither the US nor the German public or their representatives have been asked if they approve of misusing their respective national gold hoards in this manner. well, of course not, since they wouldn't have approved of it most likely. regarding your question about getting the gold back, if what Turk suspects is true, there is no way of getting anything back. in that case, the gold is gone, adios.