To: Frederick Smart who wrote (7402 ) 5/8/2001 1:56:42 AM From: 2MAR$ Respond to of 28931 Decide for yourself what this source of light, energy and Love is. In the end there can be only ONE truth - ONE God - behind everything. The point that I was making when I said :It is unthinkable for any Guru , Priest or Sage of Hinduism or Buddhist Priest or Father to ever dream of coming into a Christian land & or Christian places of Worship ...and preach their visions were the only truths . Is because they have always known that exactly , all along . This is the heart and core of Hinduism , and later Buddhism . The mystic visions of egoless embracing in love the myriad of forms and experience around you , leads you entering into the center of Hindu and Buddhist religious thought. You'll have to give it some time fredrick, but I think you will find in the 21rst century , that it is well that both the Hindu and Buddhists will continue to draw and enlighten the Christian , Moslem and the Jew away from their own fixations on an unmovable God , to a Dancing One. The Hindu and the Moslem have had many great difficulties in India , but it was not the Hindu that invaded the middle East with their Holy Jihads. It was the Christian and Moslems that invaded their country and lands with mass slaughter and forced conversion. The Christians came later. All you are saying about egolessness , supreme love , energy the deepest ,subtle recognition of a universal divine laws , the holy light within creation , was born in that country ages ago. It was taught and meditated upon by the great sages & saints of Hinduism so much longer ago before Christianity , we could easily be going back before written history , some 5000yrs . The very essence of the gospel you seem to be spelling out here, is Hindu in nature and origin to it's very core. The nature of Truth and the idea of a life centered around the worship of a God that is Holy , and a Universe that is divine to every creature within it, starts with Hinduism , and the incredibly rich succession of true Saints and Masters it has produced to this day. When you say : "Only thru Jesus Christ , the One and Only Lord and God " It is only a mirage and a grande illusion that much of the mystic visions from out of Mother India and Buddha gently inspired captured the imaginations of and got transmuted and migrated into the culture and empire of Rome & Greece in the story of one mystic Rabbai , that rises out of nowhere, performs miracles , lived and teaches for 3 years , and is mysteriously gone. It was in India when the Jews were still enslaved in Babylon , that in India the idea God sending his Son to earth , first originates. Many other "mysteries" were also lent from out of India, of man's realization he is part of something so much greater. Of "Love" of Creation , Divine Energy and Laws , and Transcending the realm of the lower senses. The story of Jesus for me is not compelling enough to accept or allow for those ignorant evangelists today , to once again infect that land that never has done anything to this world but produce great Saint after great Saint, and be the source of all the deepest and most beautiful relgious mysteries that Christians now would think were their own . It is not heresy to know that there are great Saints living even today , and in this century , that have achieved in almost every facet of the deepest truth , the same level of understanding as Jesus or Mohammed...perhaps even in greater depth . They just are not of the habit of going out and seeking publicity , Fredrick. It is not their way , but they do exist... ;-) Mars