To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (1387 ) 5/7/2001 12:21:13 PM From: dantecristo Respond to of 1929 AURELIO: The SHC 80 was a single wafer high current machine that was introduced as a three hundred millimeter alpha tool concept several years ago, maybe three. I don't recall the exact time. I don't know what ULE means. We never had a product called ULE. The Viista80 is the current evolved version of the SHC 80 and is the production version of that earlier concept. FALCON: Is that a successful product? AURELIO: It's a brand new product and the three hundred millimeter market in general has been delayed by at least two years, possibly more, well documented with Sematech and -- S-e-m-a-t-e-c-h -- and the I300I international consortia. FALCON: So, is that yes or a no? AURELIO: It means the market has been delayed and, therefore, there has been no market for three hundred millimeter tools. FALCON: Is that a marketing problem or is that a manufacturing problem? AURELIO: I don't believe I characterized it as a problem. FALCON: Was the SHC80 a successful product? McMAHON: Objection. Vague. You can answer the question. FALCON: I understand that was a forerunner of the Viista80. McMAHON: Objection. Vague. Is there still a question pending? FALCON: Yeah. That was a clarification of the question. AURELIO: Define success. FALCON: Did it make a profit? AURELIO: No. FALCON: Has the Viista80 made a profit? AURELIO: On an individual basis or -- FALCON: Yes. AURELIO: On an individual basis? FALCON: On an individual basis. AURELIO: Yes. FALCON: What other basis were you asking me? AURELIO: Your question. FALCON: Okay. Has it lost money on any basis? AURELIO: Has which lost money on any basis? FALCON: The Viista80. AURELIO: That's proprietary information. FALCON: So, that it made money is not proprietary and whether it lost money is proprietary; is that what you are telling me? McMAHON: Objection. Argumentative. AURELIO: Aside from being argumentative, we don't reveal individual profit abilities, we don't reveal individual gross margins, we don't reveal individual sales activity on any of our product lines. And I sure as hell don't intend to start doing that in this deposition. FALCON: Well, maybe you can do it this way. Is the Viista80 more or less successful than the Genus MEV? AURELIO: It's proprietary information.