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To: V. who wrote (639)6/12/1997 10:01:00 AM
From: Khris Vogel  Respond to of 17683
 
Go, girl!! Go, girl!!

Given enough opportunity, I knew the ladies of the thread would hand Grant part of his hunter's anatomy handed to him, glands and all.

One has to only look at some of the more notable fund managers out there to see that women are just as capable as men when it comes to investing. Examples that come to mind are Helen Young Hayes and Elizabeth Bramwell (excuse any spelling errors, Ms. Bramwell). And while I really can't stand her, Elaine "The Frizz" Garzarelli is another name that pops up when thinking of pro MM's.

On the individual investor level, how does one explain why all-women's investment clubs, on average, outperform all-men's or mixed gender's? The most likely answer is that women tend to be more patient than men, and are willing to do their homework and research before making investment decisions, whereas men tend to be more impulsive.

Now that I think about, I better stop before I take a circular path and make Grant's "points" for him. The bottom line here is that stereotypes, whether they be gender, age, or race, are just that when it comes to investing.



To: V. who wrote (639)6/12/1997 10:04:00 AM
From: Grant Froese of Calgary  Respond to of 17683
 
Vicki:

I apologize for prior juvenille remark. I certainly deserved your stinging rebuke. I am much more of a fundamental oriented investor. Frankly, I don't understand most Technical Analysis, but acknowledge that some people can be very successful practicing it, notably Ralph Acampora and Lazlo Biriyni (hope I didn't botch those spelling too badly). I'm sure you're are very capable and you have done very well in your activities. I didn't intend for my sophomoric remark to have any mysognist overtones as a dismissal of your talents, although I could certainly understand why you took them that way.

I would agree with your statement about how women are much more centered and balanced since they don't tend to have the same absurd need that men to "prove themselves," but it is really a very old sentiment. Many of works of literature from "Lysistrata" to Jane Austen's works have commented on the need of women to help save men from their own self-destructive absurdities.

I've noticed one troubling aspect of writing on cyber space. Whenever anyone writes anything here, it instantly analyzed and interpreted by readers who react to it immediately. While that is to be expected, reading individual posts unfortunately don't capture the nuance and inflection that the author may have intended as part of a conversation. This is not a weasely attempt by my part not to accept blame for my T&A remark, which really was inexcusable. I'm focusing on the way you interpreted my earlier comments on the differences in genders when it comes to investing. Some how, I think you took a couple of remarks I made and extrapolated an identity of myself as a swashbuckling "Gordon Gekko" greed is good type whose views of women were straight out of a 1950s comic book or sitcom. Maybe it's because we don't write letters and have long correspondences any more in America, but I made those remarks in a conversational tone. I certaintly didn't intend for it to be interpreted as "My philosophy" as if I were a professor of psychology at a University and advocating machismo.

Human beings are much more complex, they are not cartoon characters. This isn't Jenny Jones or Maury Povich, I am not a guest to be lambasted or for audience members to score one liners off. Human beings have a right to evolve and change their minds. They have a right to express themselves even when they say outrageous things. Isn't that what free speech is all about. Isn't that what education is all about, the shaping and sharing of ideas.

I wish you and Peter or who ever you choose the best of luck

Best Regards,

Grant



To: V. who wrote (639)1/30/1998 1:17:00 PM
From: Peter Speyer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17683
 
CNBC reports misleading information on Cymer (CYMI) earnings. I will be emailing them as well, but thought Candle stick's note summed it up best. They have a few hours to correct themselves; we'll see if they do.

207.183.153.206

Subject: Cymer (CYMI)
To: John R Resseger (13647)
From: Candle stick Friday, Jan 30 1998 12:41PM EST
Reply #13651 of 13659

I just sent email to CNBC at info@cnbc.com I suggest everyone here do the same....maybe by the end of the day they can report something positive and CORRECT for once. Below is a copy of the email I sent. Feel free to copy it. The more email they get the more likely they will comment.
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This is getting ridiculous. What kind of agenda are you following? Now
you report that CYMI is up 1 point AFTER a DOWNGRADE by DLJ. What about the UPGRADE by MORGAN STANLEY? You did not report THAT! What about the announced 50 million dollar share buyback...thats 15% of the outstanding stock!

First you get it wrong before the open, and report that the stock will
gap down 2 points on bad earnings, when IN FACT the earnings BEAT the
street by 2 cents and the stock gapped UP 2 points at the open.

Now you chose to focus on a downgrade by DLG, when the SUPERIOR
investment bank, MORGAN STANLY has upgraded CYMI to OUTPERFORM. Are you paid by the shorts or is your reporting just poorly researched? Either way it does not reflect well on you. Please! Make a correction on today's show! Thank you.

A concerned shareholder.

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Thought I would post this one to you, Vic, since I see no known CYMI shareholders on this thread, and it gives me a chance to respond to one of my favorite posts. Thanks for the strong buy recommendation of my stock. ;>)