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To: jcholewa who wrote (38814)5/10/2001 2:09:38 AM
From: Jim McMannisRespond to of 275872
 
JC...oh great defender of the free press...

The fellow is on an overclocker board. He hear's about fried CPUs, lock ups, quits, whatever...from people trying to tweak their computer, run 165Mhz bus, run a 1 gig chip at 1.5 Ghz, run high end video cards, copy protected material etc. via sub channel on non CloneCD approved CDRWs...or Nero that has a bug that will freeze up your computer so fast you ain't got time to think (has to be the Athlon though), run guard dog/black ice, go to sites that autoload tons of pages...(I can continue if you like).

He then concludes that because most of these chips are Athlons that Intel is the way to go.

Now that's some real logic for you. Apparently he's lost his ability to filter out the chunks.

I agree about the VIA chipsets. I even have one KT133A 686B southbridge....after reading all the junk I expected it not to run at all...
Amazingly, it's the most stable board I've ever had.
I saw no difference before and after loading the 4 in 1 drivers. Every IDE channel is full...not overclocked though.

You read the boards. They are full of posts like...
I crushed my cpu putting the HSF on backwards. Do you think AMD will replace the chip. Now it runs really hot.
or...
I accidentally scratched my motherborad...can I RMA it or use a conductive pen to redraw the...
or...
I accidentally cranked it up without a fan. I put one on and it doesn't post...kind of smells burnt.
or...
I stuck in a CD and the system froze...must be the cpu.
or I lost my drive letter for the CDRW...must be the...

Jim



To: jcholewa who wrote (38814)5/10/2001 9:43:12 AM
From: combjellyRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
"Where I disagree is that Ed has the radical notion that Intel platforms behave differently, whereas my personal experience shows that the Intel platforms, with any chipset vendor (including Intel), from the P5 all the way to the P4, are just as crappy, and just as unstable, and just as unreliable, as platforms from competing dudes."

Sad but true. The problem is likely to be two fold,
1) due to competition, corners are cut on the components.
2) the universe of possible component combinations is quite large. It is likely not possible to evaluate all combinations.

Heck, when we set this office up, we were saddled with Dell Optiplex GX200s. Within a week, one of the four units failed. Now these units have PIII 866MHz with i820 chipsets with NVidia TNT2 cards (I think). And I won't talk the problems with NT4.0...