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To: Dayuhan who wrote (13393)	5/10/2001 7:36:48 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 82486

That sort of judgment, without qualifiers such as "I think" or "in my opinion" I think that was a factor for me, too, but mostly I was just trying to understand exactly what about it he thought was wrong. Despite all this back and forth, and having gone back and read previous messages, I still can't isolate whether his concern is propriety, much like carrying a basketball into the opera hall, or whether it's the show of flesh, which might be indecent or titillating, or whether it's calling attention to the fact that baby's milk comes from breasts. I wouldn't want to encounter a nursing mother in a nice restaurant, either. This is what I said about that early in this conversation. My rationale is the basketball at the opera. Message 15771973 I never had to deal personally with the question of nursing in public since I don't have kids. I'm quite sure, though, that I would not have nursed, even discretely, in front of strangers or even family other than my husband. That seems to me like something one does in private. But I don't mind if others choose otherwise in informal environments. I wouldn't trim my toenails in public either. Karen

To: Dayuhan who wrote (13393)	5/11/2001 1:12:29 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

One uses such locutions when one is tentative, doubtful, unwilling to have to defend one's assertion, or afraid of giving offense. I myself use such locutions in such instances. When I do not use such a locution, it means that I am not tentative, doubtful, unwilling to defend my assertion, or afraid of giving offense. It goes without saying that I could be wrong. No one is infallible. I don't see the point of constantly reiterating the obvious. In our society, it is rude to invade someone's personal space, unless one is particularly close to the person. In some other societies, it is not rude to do so. Sometimes, circumstances arise where no one is at fault, because no one realized the discrepant rules. Additionally, it is possible that the sensitivity to being "invaded" will change over time. However, here and now, in this society, and assuming one knows better, it is a mistake to invade someone's space, and if it is a deliberate, avoidable offense, it is wrong. Similarly, breastfeeding in a restaurant, unless very discreet, is wrong, in this society at this time. I believe in the "broken windows" theory of policing. Matters of public decorum may not be as important as other things, but it helps to make other, more serious misbehavior seem more conceivable. That was why I raised the issue in the first place, not because I consider it pressing, but because it has become PC to take the side of La Leche League.......