To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (14098 ) 5/11/2001 9:38:26 AM From: nasdaqian Respond to of 42834 Bug, (First, my apologies to the rest of the thread. I promise this is my last on this. But I need to respond to Bug publicly on this.) The reason I resorted to simple ad hominem is because of the kind of crap you've been dishing out along the way. Mine was short, simple, to the point, and more honest. The following quotes contain all of your calumny. Well, much of it anyway. There's quite a lot. It's a tool you employ quite often:i'd bet you wouldn't write off your childs future the way you would so enthusiastically write off the "poor" kids futures. i'm not sure which is worse. being intellectually inconsistent or screwing up you own kid's education so you can get a simple "solution." i see you didn't like this statement. is it b/c it is true? funny, you didn't have the same reaction when someone posted 10% pay 60% of the taxes. ahhh, to pick and choose. ;-) in the end i think we just have different points of view based on different value systems. but, keep in mind, if disaster were to unfortunately strike you, it wouldn't be me who is kicking you - either actively or passively. it would be somebody else. and he would probably think very much like you do right now. of course, nothing bad could ever happen to you, right? i hope not. but it is something to consider and i consider it for myself. as long as you get yours, that is ok with you, right? well, i think differently. i really enjoy adding value to people's lives and watching them grow from something small to something better. i don't have a "hoard mentality, screw everyone else and their misfortune. it's their fault they chose their parents wrong." you may not actively think in this manner, however, the end result is the same. the poor get screwed, children don't get fed and the rich can brag about that extra "0" on their monthly brokerage statement. wouldn't that be shangri la, huh? hey, you don't hang out with those losers, so what does it matter if they are starving. only if they had the large sum of dough to go along with the voucher - this excludes poor people. but it probably would include your child! ;-) talk about class warfare! can folks who vehemently fight for their own financial self interest really complain when others do the exact same thing in govt? let's elevate the discussion from "me and mine" to what is reasonable for the community at large. the "me and mine" attitude is *precisely* why govt is so screwed up. i'd bet you wouldn't write off your childs future the way you would so enthusiastically write off the "poor" kids futures. i'm not sure which is worse. being intellectually inconsistent or screwing up you own kid's education so you can get a simple "solution." pure self interest leads to many problems and allows people to justify treating others poorly. why is it ok to write off poor kids but not write you off? realistically, the only difference is one's self centered point of view. it is a scary realization that all those folks screwing you over think like you do - they value themselves over you and consider you acceptable collateral damage like you consider the transition kids acceptable collateral damage that isn't the question. i'm all for improved education. however, i'm not willing to write people off as collateral damage as easily as you are. well, actually, you wouldn't write yourself off. probably not your family and friends, either. just "other people." newsflash, the folks screwing you view you as "other people." Over, out, done, bye-bye, so long, ciao.