To: SLSUSMA who wrote (451 ) 5/13/2001 10:37:35 AM From: Hawkmoon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2279 You don't know much about how classified materials work, do you? I know as much as you do, because it's all contained in the appropriate regulations and DOD guidelines... And considering that I was one of the people tasked with making sure you SCIF "rats" maintained the material in its proper compartmentalized categories. Oh.. and btw, while you're flashing around those "credentials", remember that the "watchers" have to be cleared in the same manner and level as those they "watched", sometimes more so. Do the terms "SAEDA" or "subject interview" mean anything to you? You are woefully incorrect about the nature of data contained on a classified computer network. Just as material in a classified INTSUM might be unclassified in itself, the fact that it co-exists with classified material prevents someone from taking such a report to an unclassified copying machine and extracting that unclassified material for personal use. You might do so and get away with it, but you're violating regulations for handling classified material. Thus, even if you are copying off email jokes that your associates are sending via the classified AIS, you would technically be in violation for printing them off. This would be for your ISSO and ISSM to adjudicate. There is a very good reason that unclassified material, once placed on a classified AIS, adopts the same classification AR 381-12 and AR 380-19 Thus, Wen Ho Lee was in violationgeocities.com Lee was fired in March for alleged security violations, including erasing or cutting off "top secret" markings from three highly classified documents and failing to report unauthorized contacts with Chinese officials. The FBI, which interviewed Lee six times from Jan. 17 to March 8, unsuccessfully sought to persuade him to confess to spying for Beijing. He denied any wrongdoing. But after Lee's dismissal, investigators said he had moved vast amounts of "secret restricted data," including the so-called "source codes" of most of America's nuclear weapons, into an unclassified computer system. Prosecutors say Lee spent more than 40 hours moving the files on nights and weekends in 1993 and 1994 and repeatedly deceived his colleagues about his intentions. (Note... this was tracked by the "Audit Log" required on all Classified AIS networks showing activity and access) "The files were open to not-very-sophisticated hackers on the Internet," Cheryl L. Wampler, a computer expert at Los Alamos, testified Monday. John J. Kelly, the U.S. attorney for New Mexico, argued that the classified material amounted to a virtual blueprint for construction of a modern nuclear weapon, a contention that appeared to go further than previous assertions by Energy Department officials. At Lee's Dec. 13 arraignment, Robert Messemer, the FBI agent in charge of the case, testified that Lee effectively had declassified the equivalent of more than 400,000 printed pages of highly classified computer data. Messemer said FBI agents searching Lee's home with a warrant on April 10 found a notebook that meticulously listed in Chinese all the classified and unclassified files that Lee had moved. The notebook also indicated that Lee had put the data on at least 15 high-density portable data tapes. Six were later located in Lee's cluttered office, and two others were determined to contain unclassified data. ***** Thus, by all accounts, Wen Ho Lee was a VERY BAD BOY... And the fact that the US government was not able to actually verify the content contained on those missing tapes, does not defeat the fact that he knowingly violated proper security protocols for ensuring the data contained on that classified network. NONE of the material he removed was provided to his ISSO for proper classification/declassification. So, regardless of whether you had a clearance in a past military life, or the fact that you claim to work for the New Republic, if will not alter the procedures for handling and safeguarding of classified materials according to established regulations. And I'm sure you NEVER spent 40 hours copying material from a classified LAN to an unclassified one. Because I would have loved to be the one playing Mutt and Jeff with you as you attempted to explain your actions. Hawk