To: stats77 who wrote (33524 ) 5/13/2001 5:51:16 PM From: FLACK Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 100058 OT - stats re: Black jack Ace-Five count "Does this count give about the same edge as the hi/low count? If it is I'm switching because the high/low count is a lot of work." This count system is slightly less advantageous than the high-low count. I mentioned it solely because it is easier to master than the high-low which requires that you count every card played. However, the high-low count is like adding additional indicators to your stock chart, in that you will have added information, and therefore additional knowledge from which to make a decision. Card counting can not predict the order in which the cards will appear, but it does tell you two critical things: 1. The ratio of high cards to low cards remaining in the deck, and 2. When to increase or decrease your bet size based upon the above ratio You can think of card counting as you would chart indicators. When the stock price rises above its 50 MA, you know the institutions will be buying - therefore it's a safe bet that you should also be buying. When the price falls through the 50 MA, you know the institutions will be selling - therefore you should too. With the High-Low counting system, when the number of high cards remaining outnumbers the number of low cards remaining, you should be increasing your bet size. When the number of low cards remaining outnumbers the number of high cards remaining, you should decrease your bet size. In other words, both of these activities are purely mechanical based upon their "indicators". Because the Ace-Five count only tracks two cards, you will not see as many opportunities as with the High-Low count. Your bets will remain within the 1 to 3 unit area for much longer periods of time, resulting in lower risk and lower potential rewards - however, the Basic Strategy player will find that it reduces their overall risk because they will only be increasing your bet size when you have a mathematical advantage. In short, if you're having difficulty keeping track of your count and the required deviations using the High-Low count, you should consider giving the Ace-Five count a try.