To: E. Charters who wrote (69117 ) 5/14/2001 5:03:55 AM From: d:oug Respond to of 116779 "The only way to defeat evil is with eviler. Or is it?" Or is it a better focus to identify that the battles between Good & Evil have a single goal of that to win, and the means to win should not be characterized with that which defines Good or Evil? "Man will bring Evil upon himself, in the name of Good." Yes, as long as what is The Good is accepted by the populous, as defined by a few people for their own personal agenda to obtain wealth and/or power, rather than through a science approach as is done by those educated as Rarebird so that answers to what is Good can be obtained and used as a guide to form and create a society based on what will not harm or destroy any individual's quest to live life. "Freedom only exists where all men put it above all else." True, but when done it is done incorrectly 99% of times as once again people let others decide what is freedom and the actions taken are to create or continue anothers agenda for wealth and/or power. My history lessons in highschool did not happen, but i believe the George Washington boat ride and Paul Revere stuff and Minutemen men did have as a purpose a real freedom purpose to escape from England's rules & regulations, which i forget what years they were, but they were successful and for a short time in history the USA was free from a big government that denies freedom. "... we construct... for our own governance ... that which gives to men unchecked, a power to decide the fate of others..." Good Grief, an on topic gold mention item. Thanks. "men unchecked" As in todays creation of fiat money with no backing of value, of which the gold standard is the only available method, and in this case the solution/cure/medicine of physical gold is the opposite of that saying "the cure worst than the disease" as the disease of worthless paper money and credit is as described by some i have read like a person on hard drugs that needs more and more to stay high and feel ok while they grow sicker. ak