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To: dale_laroy who wrote (39478)	5/14/2001 1:15:40 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

RE:"Typically, within the range of voltages that a processor operates, the peak speed grade increases at the square of the voltage. This would predict a 1.56 MHz peak speed grade at 1.75v if the peak speed grade at 1.4v is 1.0 GHz." Thanks Dale. That's right in line with a 1.533 GHz desktop launch which is probably conservative. Looks like 1.7-1.8 Ghz Palominos may not be a fantasy even on .18u?

To: dale_laroy who wrote (39478)	5/14/2001 2:19:48 AM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Typically, within the range of voltages that a processor operates, the peak speed grade increases at the square of the voltage. This would predict a 1.56 MHz peak speed grade at 1.75v if the peak speed grade at 1.4v is 1.0 GHz. That's not been my experience. I hope 1GHz is not the max speed grade at 1.4V that fits under the limits of power dissipation. If that is the case, I think it was a bit disingenuous for Sanders to say that AMD can match any mobile frequency Intel can release. It appears Intel will launch higher mobile frequencies in less than 2 months. So, AMD would have to be able to achieve 1.3GHz on .18um or be ready to release .13um mobile parts by the 4th quarter. If they can achieve 1.3GHz on .18um, it implies that these 1GHz parts are not minimum channel length parts and they are not yet at the maximum power design limit. So.... which is it?? Can they or can't they match Tualatin frequencies?? THE WATSONYOUTH