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To: dale_laroy who wrote (39541)	5/14/2001 10:28:42 AM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 275872

Dale, I believe that the removal of PowerNow! from the desktop processor was as much to decrease the die size as to limit the potential of using a desktop processor in notebooks. Anand said that they use the same core. Joe

To: dale_laroy who wrote (39541)	5/14/2001 5:16:24 PM
From: ptanner	Respond to of 275872

Dale, Re: "I believe that the removal of PowerNow! from the desktop processor was as much to decrease the die size as to limit the potential of using a desktop processor in notebooks. I expect the desktop variant of Thoroughbred to have PowerNow!2." Tomshardware had some graphics that appear to be from AMD technical documents so hopefully these will arrive on AMD's site soon. It seems it takes a while (I forget) for the web site to reflect shipping products. Tom's noted some additional pin usage on the mobile processor but was not certain if it necessarily conflicted with use in a desktop Socket A. However, unless the chipset and/or Bios knew to look for this information, the PowerNow features wouldn't be available. So I still have two questions: (1) How much die space could PowerNow! require? (2) Wouldn't a slimmer form factor for the notebook processor be a much more appropriate way to keep desktop processors out of notebooks? I don't think users would make this modification (notebooks are basically a packaged unit) other than as an upgrade. But I suppose notebook companies trying to cut corners might. Tom's article did specifically noted an OBGA (Organic Ball Grid Array) package but he didn't have any picture. Would "Organic" mean plastic in this case? -PT