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To: Petz who wrote (39565)	5/14/2001 12:04:10 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

I couldn't see anyplace where Anand actually said he removed the chip, although he did have pictures of the bare package. He did state this, which is pretty clear: The mobile Athlon 4 processor is packaged exactly the same as its upcoming workstation counterpart, meaning it is the same size as a current generation Athlon (Thunderbird). This combined with the fact that motherboard manufacturers have to make room for the chipset is going to unfortunately keep the Athlon 4 out of the thin and light notebooks initially. (page 8) anandtech.com Meanwhile, Dr. Tom's review has some slightly contrary reporting:: Mobile Athlon 4 will come in two different form factors. One of the two is the well-known SocketA form factor, as shown in the pictures above. AMD claims that Mobile Athlon 4 cannot be operated in a normal SocketA motherboard, although Mobile Athlon 4 for SocketA has got the same mechanical dimensions and pin count as previous SocketA processors. Supposedly some of the pins have 'different assignments'. I can NOT verify this. What I found however is that a few pins of Athlon 4 are now used that were marked as 'not connected' for Thunderbird Athlons. Two of those pins are the above-mentioned pins for the thermal diode. Besides that there are five pins for Mobile Athlon 4's clock multiplier SVID[0..4] and one pin that is called CPU_PRESENCE# (AK6). Those pins might be an issue when sticking Mobile Athlon 4 into a normal SocketA motherboard, but it might as well not be a problem. http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q2/010514/palomino-07.html Dr. Tom also had this interesting bit, which somewhat correlates with the lack of numbers in Anand's piece: AMD has not yet supplied any tester with Mobile Athlon 4 samples and according notebook test beds. This leaves us unable to provide you with any in-house benchmark results. tomshardware.com Dr. Tom's review begins at tomshardware.com . Overall, interesting, but also disappointing in terms of actual availability. We'll see soon enough, I guess.