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To: John Walliker who wrote (72862)5/14/2001 6:48:41 PM
From: Eric K.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625
 
John-- Re: Nobody claims, for example, that using both edges of a clock to time data transfers was Rambus' invention.

Actually, Geoff Tate claimed at Friday's conference call that RAMBus "taught" the oUtDaTeD dRaM makers the invention of transferring data on both the rising and falling edges of the clock, as well as "much, much more."

-Eric



To: John Walliker who wrote (72862)5/14/2001 8:13:49 PM
From: Ali Chen  Respond to of 93625
 
John, "..and the ability to have a bus longer than one bit-time makes for totally cast-iron patent protection of the "crown jewels".

You must be confused. First, Rambus did not invent
"longer than one bit-time bus". They had
an economically-challenged single-domain idea.
Their patented idea has failed miserably.
The long Ram-bus was invented and patented by Intel:

delphion.com
US6173345:Method and apparatus for levelizing transfer delays for a channel of devices such as memory devices in a memory subsystem.

"..it is perfectly valid to combine together previously known techniques to make a new combination and to patent that."
Hereby you concede that there were no new "techniques"
embedded into the original Rambus application, but
a novel combination of thereof.
Then the question for you: what did differentiate
the Ram-bus from other DRAM-busses? The answer
was found in the court: the Rambus was essentially
address/data/control multiplexed. They explicitly
used the tri-bus DRAM interface as a "bad" prior art
they were going to improve.
That was that "crown jewel" that allowed PTO to
admit some novelity and eventually issue patents.
The multiplexed idea and the
corresponding "low-pin-count" ran through all
Rambus patents.

Now you write:
"The difficulty has been that the original bus
definition was very tightly drawn".
It is not a "difficulty", it is a principal
point of the whole Rambus "invention".
With broader definitions there would
be no patent at all, I think.

- Ali