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To: Elmer who wrote (135278)	5/16/2001 10:52:29 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

the 2GHz P4 will be a whopping 110W! (even if Vcc_mid = 1.7V, the max power is still 104W.) Intel’s documents on this subject point out that the cost of cooling hardware rises exponentially after power dissipation demands exceed around 75W. With the 2GHz Pentium 4, the cooling systems will be either costly but sufficient, or under engineered, relying on performance throttling to make up the difference under demanding loads (as outlined in Intel P4 thermal guidelines). inqst.com

To: Elmer who wrote (135278)	5/16/2001 10:53:36 PM
From: muzosi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

do you even know what business tsmc is in ?

To: Elmer who wrote (135278)	5/16/2001 11:03:19 PM
From: muzosi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

let me answer your "anyone ever doing logic, flash and analog on a single die yet". i did this and i am not using the cutting edge of the available technology. i worked on a .25u chip which had an adc & pll (that's analog for you), a 16 bit microprocessor (that's digital if you don't know), lots of sram and flash. we didn't use any dram even though it was available as an option. that chip sells for <$5 and it is relatively low volume. now take that technology, scale it to .15u & go to large volme and large die size. there is your part. whether it's a good idea is something else.