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To: Ali Chen who wrote (42720)	5/17/2001 2:10:02 AM
From: Uncle Frank	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 54805

>> Since I do not recall any objections from you with regard to the recent post, Message 15811481 , I am forced to guess that the following excerpt is a good example to follow... If you were inclined to be the least charitable you might have considered that I hadn't read it yet. >> I apologize for disturbing your calm thread, and cordially agree that individuals may state their opinions as long as they indentify them as such. Now that's charitable, except for the qualifier. The goal of the debate is to separate fact from opinion at its conclusion, and unless you're trying to establish yourself up as the sole arbiter of fact, resorting to discourtesy at any point in the process is premature. >> I can't believe that a reasonable and honest individual can stretch the truth to such extent, especially if he was pointed out to several logical and factual flaws in his reasoning before, on the same SI thread. Then you suffer from a very limited imagination, Ali. Tinker Shaw isn't the only investor, analyst, or corporation who has been convinced that Rambus has vital technology. After years of review by their technologists and legal staffs, a number of world class memory manufacturers including Samsung, NEC, Toshiba, Hitachi and Oki Electric bought into the program and agreed to pay stiff royalties to use Rambus's patents. If all of that high powered talent came to the same conclusion as Tinker, surely you can conceive that his comments might reflect sincere beliefs rather than some nefarious pump and dump scheme. If not, speaking for myself, I don't think your posts will be useful or welcome. uf

To: Ali Chen who wrote (42720)	5/17/2001 12:16:55 PM
From: tinkershaw	Respond to of 54805

Ali, As an example of Micron dumping DDR here is an article: ebnonline.com In regard to benchmarks. There certainly are some bad benchmarks for RDRAM, particularly with the 820 and some early 840s. However, I have not seen a negative RDRAM review in the last 6 months or more as INTC finally produces chips that support the power of RDRAM. Further, this performance advantage has been measured to increase enormously when SSE2 optimization is used. On the other hand, I have not seen anything, ANYTHING, in any benchmark which has anything real great to say about any of the current DDR chipsets. In fact I have seen many articles stating that 5-10% performance improvement is hardly worth the effort for the price. At least one review of the new VIA chip suggesting that a soldering iron be included with the system. Of course it would also help if you could find any mass market DDR products as well in the desktop. Use in graphic cards for which DDR is doing well is a whole new ballgame. But as the manual says, 10% of the news is real news the other 90% is bunk. I'll leave it up to the individual investor to determine for themselves which is bunk news and which is material news. But in general, when or if I see DDR modules going into corporate PCs on a material basis then I will turn my head big time. Tinker