To: Bilow who wrote (73233 ) 5/18/2001 6:32:33 PM From: Dave B Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 93625 DDR can be made on the same lines as SDRAM, so it, too, can become the mainstream memory design. The key word is "can". The fact that it can be made on the same lines as SDRAM is just one factor that may help it become mainstream memory. Even Scumbria has figured out that it's a business issue, not a technical one, at this point.The only reason DDR isn't already as cheap as SDRAM is because there are fewer makers of DDR than there are of SDRAM. I assume, then, that you missed Don's post that said that Crucial has just priced them at parity?It's too bad for the memory makers that SDRAM prices are low right now, but all those low prices do is cement SDRAM as an even harder to dislodge mainstream standard memory. Agreed.Just because an item is bad news for the memory makers doesn't mean that it is automatically good news for Rambus. Agreed.There may be some more fab space available for manufacturing RDRAM, but there has been fab space available for this for many months and RDRAM is nevertheless very expensive. Fact is that RDRAM is a more expensive product to manufacture. Agreed.As Scumbria and Jdaasoc have both repeatedly pointed out, the performance advantage of DDR (or RDRAM) over SDRAM for the system as a whole is minuscule, Keep this in mind for a minute or two...consequently DDR (or RDRAM) will only replace SDRAM if the pricing is near identical. And it's supported by top-tier vendors. And it doesn't have compatibility issues. And it has Intel support. And a whole host of other business factors.What we are seeing now is daily crashes in the price of DDR. I took a quick look at Pricewatch, and it looks like when I update the figures in a few hours DDR will have made another massive step towards SDRAM pricing. Go read Don's post.When DDR reaches SDRAM pricing, the industry will switch. The daily drop in prices is an indication that Micron is hurrying this process along. As of today, Micron/Crucial has lowered the price to parity. I'll be watching for the rush. Will there be excuses if it doesn't happen? <G>Until then, DDR will only be bought by speed demons... Except that you just (implicitly) said that the performance benefit for DDR is miniscule. It doesn't sound as if this is what they want/need....and the guys who have to be the first on the block with something new. Agreed, though in this case it'll be the AMD guys who want to be the first on the block. The guys who want Intel already have their something new.The same would apply to RDRAM, except that Intel forced RDRAM on to the market by not supporting alternatives. When Intel supports SDRAM and DDR for the P4, this advantage that RDRAM had (a captive market), will go away. I think SDRAM will make the most difference. We shall see. Dave