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To: Elmer who wrote (135468)5/18/2001 8:22:46 PM
From: muzosi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
if the report is to be accepted at face value, a 1.7ghz chip runs as a 850 mhz chip under high load. if someone buys a 1.7ghz p4 to run hspice overnight assuming that it is going to be done till morning and sees that it needs to run into late afternoon, i don't believe they will agree that nothing is broken. but i guess everything is a matter of definition. a 1.7ghz cpu is 1.7ghz only when it running the idle loop of the os and a 850 mhz when it is hard at work, right?

ps during my next purchase of computers i intend to buy one k7 1.3 and one p4 1.7 and test them with hspice. i am really curious about the results. i do run these overnight fp intensive simulations.



To: Elmer who wrote (135468)5/18/2001 8:45:17 PM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
What is there to fix? Nothing is broken. It's behaving as intended.

Do you think Intel intended to have to use clock throttling? How often would one have to experience clock throttling before you would say Intel is falsely claiming a 1.7GHz part? Wouldn't the people who opt for and need these highest performing machines be the very ones that might experience clock throttling? What if the competition could achieve equal or better performance without clock throttling? Overall, do you consider this clock throttling an issue or a non issue?

THE WATSONYOUTH



To: Elmer who wrote (135468)5/18/2001 9:32:43 PM
From: muzosi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
now that i read this post again, i just realized something. you didn't call me an amdroid making up stuff and tell me that this would never happen etc. etc. i guess it is possible to take the it in It's behaving as intended as "throttling on a well designed cooling system". from the lack of response from you and paul, i am starting to believe that this event is real and intel is really depending on most people not seeing the effects. if true, that's a very dangerous path for them to take. it can be argued that a 1.7ghz processor which doesn't throttle at 1.4ghz is a 1.4ghz processor not a 1.7ghz one.