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To: arun gera who wrote (99447)	5/19/2001 5:18:11 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 152472

<(I see a big increase in telemetry applications only if solar energy is sufficient to operate the CDMA data device, then the possibilities are endless, 10s of billions of devices are not out of the question.)> Arun, a photovoltaic panel could separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, to replenish a fuel cell. The water could come from rainfall collected in a big tank [or small tank if in a greater rainfall area]. The photovoltaics during sun and fuel cell during cloud and dark could drive the telemetry. Even in freezing climates, the water could be insulated and some of the energy used to keep it liquid. Bingo, no human contact needed. On royalties for Anita [TM] devices, QUALCOMM said a while ago that they would have a maximum fee so that large devices, such as notebook puters, [cars and aircraft], wouldn't be charged a fortune for the relatively low value CDMA components. Mqurice

To: arun gera who wrote (99447)	5/19/2001 10:11:20 AM
From: samim anbarcioglu	Respond to of 152472

Arun, >>The unknown is BREW. Will Qualcomm really make money off Brew? One comparison is the WAP model by Openwave. WAP servers are sold to carriers for a price. The direct revenue from Brew consists of a) Brew servers that the carriers will have to buy b) Application certification revenue from developers. None from the sale of the application to the end customer. That will be divied between the carrier and the developer. The indirect revenue will be of course from the increased demand for Q phones that will have all these cool applications running on them.

To: arun gera who wrote (99447)	5/19/2001 10:25:08 AM
From: pcstel	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 152472

Arun gera: "A typical power user in a few years might have a modem card for a laptop, a data device in the car (a la Wingcast), a data device for the handheld, possibly a data device built into a camera, in addition to a phone. Say 5 devices per power user. And assume 10 percent of the 1 billion users are power users. That brings the numbers to about 0.5 billion devices in seven years (say). " But, that was Pierre's point.. Why won't a Power User just use WLAN or Bluetooth for the short range Wireless connection to the Cell Phone? After all.. All of Qualcomm's chips will have Bluetooth interfaces. So again.. WLAN and Bluetooth have created a "reduction" in the amount of Q chips necessary in many applications!! Of course.. For this concept to even begin to work.. You are going to need SIM cards.. No one (Power Users Inclusive) is going to maintain 4 of 5 Wireless Accounts. And even if they did not use WLAN or Bluetooth.. The Power User will just use a "CDMA Modem Card".. So one Modem Card will be used in 6 different devices.. (That's a 6:1 reduction) So either way.. The Modem Card kills royaltes and Chip Sales compared to a One Chip per device concept, and WLAN and Bluetooth kills royaltes and Chip Sales for Localized Wireless Connections to a single Q chip enabled phone!! (Which continues to fall in price and royalties collected) IMO.. Just as you have seen the necessity of Qualcomm Chips/Royaltes lowered with Engneers example (utility meters). with a 200:1 reduction using WLAN or Bluetooth. (Bluetooth is fighting a losing battle here!) The same goes for the Power User!! Short range FREE Wireless Data will continue to lower QCOM's market penetration!! IMO.. BTW Maurice: "a photovoltaic panel could separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, to replenish a fuel cell." You once again have been able to Violate the entire KISS (Keep it simple stup!d) principle.. What kind of maintenance would be required on a "Remote Fuel Cell" with a photovoltaic hydrogen/oxygen serperator? Let's just stick with a nice "Solar panel" and some of those Valence "Super Dupper" Batteries!! Did you ever take a look at VLNC? I know, I know.. WRONG again PCSTEL <vbg> PCSTEL