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To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (146641)5/20/2001 1:07:07 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 769670
 
Lowest gas prices::::::

gaspricewatch.com

JLA



To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (146641)5/20/2001 4:58:16 PM
From: Patricia Trinchero  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Gordon,

Pete Wilson and all the Republicans and Democrats passed the bill back in 1996. Jerry Brown had been gone for 12 years at least!!!!

I was told that the plan had figured enough power until 2005. That is why the building of new generators was started last year and not expedited until recently.

We have 4 to 6 peaker plants going online here this summer.



To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (146641)5/20/2001 9:32:19 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 769670
 
Gordon, great link. spectator.org

But I like this part.

Unfortunately, Lovins often overstated his case. In claiming that the entire U.S.transportation sector could run on gasohol, he used beer and wine production as a comparison:

Each year the U.S. beer and wine industry microbiologically produces 5 percent as many
gallons (not all alcohol, of course) as the U.S. oil industry produces gasoline. Gasoline has 1.5 to 2 times the fuel value of alcohol per gallon. Thus a conversion industry roughly ten to fourteen times the physical scale (in gallons of fluid output per year) of U.S. cellars and breweries would produce roughly one-third of the present gasoline requirements of the United States.

But notice Lovins doesn't bother to calculate the required flow of organic materials through the system. The hops crop and vineyards occupy about 40 million acres. Twelve times this amount would be 480 million acres -- half the farmland in the United States. But now we do have to factor in that beer and wine are only about 5 percent alcohol, which means multiplying again by 20.

This leaves us with a requirement of 9.6 billion acres -- ten times the entire cropland in the United States -- to produce one-third of our transportation needs in 1977.

This is the standard fair of retarded greens who can con vacant liberal minds hook line and sinker. But what does one expect when the best demodummies are just more scum rich engineers by self proclamation.

tom watson tosiwmee