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To: Paul Engel who wrote (40683)	5/21/2001 3:10:25 AM
From: John Evans	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

RE: AMDroids and the AMD-paid Bounty Hunters who are looking for problems that may not exist in Intel chips while compeletely ignoring - probably also because AMD pays them NOT TO - severe instability problems in AMD's AthShlock devices. There is no clear evidence that the P4 is throttling. You are correct in observing that some "AMDroids" are being deceptive pretending otherwise. But it's not a conspiracy. The throttling debate arose out of curious Quake III benchmarks and an Intel paper. The paper suggested that thermal throttling might be necessary in the P4 -- if not the current version, then future ones. Regarding "severe instability problems in [Athlon] devices," you should also recognize that statement as deceptive B.S. The Athlon (much like the P4) requires a high quality power supply.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (40683)	5/21/2001 8:41:46 AM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 275872

Re: paniced AMDroids What is going on is very similar to what is sometimes done in the Hi-Fi industry. The more respectable companies rate their components power RMS continuous output, while the KMart no-name systems are rated in "peak" watts. AMD rates its processors according to continuous MHZ, while Intel labels its processors with their "peak" MHZ. Intel sells mobile processors rated as 1GHZ that run at 700MHZ mobile. Intel desktop processors are rated at some peak speed but slow down after a fraction of a second of heavy use. AMD processors are rated at their continuously available "peak" speed. AMD mobile processors can idle slowly to extend battery life but, under heavy load, run at full rated MHZ, whether on battery or wall power. AMD desktop processors always run at full rated speed. The big complaint is that there is no asterisk next to those Intel ratings to let the customer know that those are Peak ratings, rather than the continuous ratings used by everyone else in industry (including Intel until this year). Dan