To: S100 who wrote (11792 ) 5/22/2001 5:37:05 AM From: 49thMIMOMander Respond to of 34857 "This is not magic, it takes time to test the phones and networks," said Lauri Kivinen Why does this point of view somehow seem to be culturally biased in favor of finns?? While the transatlantic angloamerican is more in terms of "are we there yet" from the backseat, except for some who actually soil there hands by doing some useful work?? All according to the transatlantic media, of course.. --- Nokia is doing better and better in basestations (Ultra), and rumours are Nokia is going to take an even higher marketshare because of the smart system design and by focusing on fast time to market as well as upgradability. It is pretty interesting how all these transatlantic guys and girls articles use the same style, sentences and words, get all the same things wrong, as if they all just had come out of the same propaganda factory. Using the transatlantic military propaganda as guidence it would predict something major will happen within 0.5 year (the time it takes for repetetive propaganda to claim it is selfevident) but maybe this is just a defensive maneuver, save what still can be saved and delay any possible IPOs, avoid agressive mergers. Anyway, must be something important as that much ammunition and coordinated effort is wasted making up all that magic. Ilmarinen infra sharing: mast sharing is already yesterday stuff, initial sharing of the full infra a matter of agreeing on the rules, the time frame, the step to regular competing networks, a giant puzzle, chess game where the next 5-7 moves must be considered before the first can be made. (also interesting that so few articles have mentioned this "initial sharing")