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To: pcstel who wrote (99672)5/22/2001 12:12:58 PM
From: DWB  Respond to of 152472
 
So PCSTEL,

Since when do you believe everything you read coming out of an investment house? Oh, right I forgot what a bunch of forward thinking futurists they've got at Merrill Lynch... Not like all those other guys out trying to push investors towards their business clients... guess if it jives with your own perspective...

And didn't engineer basically state the following?

No matter which wireless technology takes mobile communication forward, the study said numerous challenges await. These include billing, maintenance, working with existing 2G systems and interference.

DWB



To: pcstel who wrote (99672)5/22/2001 1:53:43 PM
From: engineer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
802.11b is a great technology .......for home lan distribution or for office distrubtion when funded by individuals for their own private use.

802.11 as an operating business has some serious drawbacks.

Privacy and security. Use of this at private companies for LAN distribution means that your network is now open to the world, as no secure network exists in 802.11B...perhaps in 802.11g orJ it may come about.

The band is unlicesnsed, so your use of it is at your own risk. If someone hapens to jam you with another competing technology, then you cannot do anything as long as that other equipment meets the FCC part 15 specs for use within that band. Bluetooth has this same problem, as 802.11b jams bluetooth. 802.11b can be jammed by some of the variants of 802.11 (no letter), the older specs.

I do not doubt that it is a nice technology for putting a wireless lan into your house and allowing you to move about, but to claim that it is anything that is a viable wide area network allowing connections is the wrong use of the technology. I think the space that Intel is pushing for instance is the right one, personal use, home use. Schools, libraries are all good places for it, but they would be funded with public moeny and not for profit. Corporations who have a high degree of office mobility or change are also goo, but they would be funded with dollars which would have gone towards wiring the office. Not widespread commercial use. Like I said many times before, there lacks the ability to have overall control so that roaming and subscription makes economic sense for someone to fund milions of dollars of infrastructure roll out so that a couple of techno-geeks can sign on and use email in public places.

I would be more than happy to discuss it with your ML broker or analyst. A similair discussion with some people at MSDW was quite helpful to them as well. I think if you read what they wrote, it supports this idea. Nowhere in their report does it say that it competes with 3G or wide area networks.

Your attacks are getting more pathetic as they go on.....so now I assume your going to go off about Globalstar again or perhps the 671 PE of Qualcomm as a way to avoid actually listening to what I wrote. I expect that response, so don't even bother.



To: pcstel who wrote (99672)5/22/2001 4:26:20 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
<You better get Engineer over to Merrill Lynch's offices so that he can explain the "Hopeless Economic and Business Model" that 802.11 fails to provide!!>

I have to catch up on all those posts, but I think this misrepresents engineer's opinion. I think I read that the technology wasn't enough, it had to have a business model. I don't think he said the technology is no good. Similar to Globalstar - great technology, rotten business plan [or more accurately, rotten marketing ideas].

He said people have to pay for data. There's no free lunch. If they charge too much, as Globalstar did, they'll frighten everyone away with sticker shock. D'ohCoMo's imode is the way to charge = per pixel. Per minute charges will kill data deader than a dodo.

Mqurice

PS: Ooops, I see I am many posts behind and engineer and you have continued discussions....